Trump's Personal Lawyer And Campaign Manager Both Going To Prison

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EricHiggin said:

Final-Fan said: 

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "leaks that led to their wrongdoing coming to light"?  I will freely admit I don't know all the details, but despite spending a few minutes searching I was unable to produce evidence of their texts being leaked before the DOJ released a bunch of them in December 2017.  If you could tell me what you are basing that statement on I would be grateful.  [edit:  Further searching suggests that it might be possible that the DOJ released the texts to get in front of leaks by Republicans in Congress.  If that's true, then although the texts first became known as a result of official information it was only released because they were afraid of leaks.  Is this what you meant?]  

In any case, it's wrong to imply that Mueller only removed them from the team when the texts became widely known, because of course they were pulled off the team before anyone knew anything about why they would have been removed.  They weren't fired from the FBI entirely until afterward but I think it's fair to say that's not Mueller's job anymore—do you disagree? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Strzok

After a few minutes searching I can't find anything really legit going back far enough to prove that at the moment. Ya I know, it's wiki. I remember Hannity calling for the emails and texts to be released for legit proof, which he learned through the leaks. There are articles mentioning "we already knew about the texts" but that's not a date. The wiki talks about how Mueller kicked him in August 2017, so the leaks were already out well before then, let alone December 2017.

I said "until someone else finds out what they've done". Someone and many people, or "widely known" are not the same thing. Mueller made sure to steer clear of this after the fact. Not like he had the power to finish his career, but instead of helping where he could, he took the political route and kept his team at bay as not to make the investigation look weak. Mueller has the ability to expand his investigation beyond the initial Russia probe, but he didn't bother with this for some reason.

What are you defining as "the leaks"?  When Strzok was kicked from the investigation no one in the public had any idea why.  Are you calling it a "leak" when Mueller found out that they had texted each other inappropriately? 

You said, "I said "until someone else finds out what they've done"."  This is exactly what I'm calling into question.  Is there any reason to believe that the initial removal of Strzok from the investigation was only done after someone else found out in order to clean up the mess?  It's a question of whether the desire to clean house came from internal pressure (integrity, or more cynically reacting to potential future damage to reputation) or external pressure (reacting to ongoing damage to reputation).  Both of us have tried and failed to find evidence that this happened.  You're assuming that Mueller wouldn't have kicked him in August 2017 if the texts weren't already known about outside Mueller's team and related parties ("the leaks were already out well before then")—why are you assuming this must be the case?