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Machiavellian on 22 September 2018
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EricHiggin said:

Machiavellian said:

You are correct, I did state his team has been airtight.  So you are looking for me to provide proof that his team has not been airtight.  My proof is the same as I claimed.  You cannot find not one single incident where anyone from Mueller team has leaked any information.  Hell, I doubt you can even find any person on Mueller team who is alleged to have leaked any information.  The reason I know this is because just like you, I do my homework as well. The burden of proof on my part is that there isn't anything out there. 

Since you could not find anything that has showed that even come close to proving someone from Mueller team has leaked information, I am not even sure why you keep arguing this point.

Your claim is that Mueller team has leaked information but the links you provided did not even come close to even pointing one finger at anyone within Mueller team.  Instead all there was is information of leaks on information that was not exclusive to anything gained from Mueller investigation.  You would have maybe something to stand on if you could even find something along the lines where only Mueller team was the only people with this information but you cannot even do that.  You are basically making a conclusion that there is leaks so something must be coming from Mueller team because you feel it to be true.  In reality, you have absolutely nothing that even come close to proving your feelings and you arguing about it isn't going to make your point any more right.

There is no draw, 

Your proof was theories and beliefs. Again, that's not worthy evidence and I don't consider it proof by any means. Are you trying to say if I only used one link then it would have been more acceptable since we both would have offered one useless piece of evidence? I already mentioned Muellers team has already lost individuals due to leaks, just not specific to the Cohen and Manafort case, but that apparently doesn't hold any influence over whether the leaks came from Muellers team apparently, since it's not directly pertaining to this case. You keep pointing to his team and exclusive information, but just because the information wasn't exclusive to just them, that means to you that his team couldn't have leaked it? Your evidence was theories and beliefs. You already accused me prior to believing in theories which apparently doesn't count, so why should I take your claim and evidence anymore seriously than my own? Why am I still at it, when you've already explained your set on the fact that it's not a draw? Strength in numbers?

When two gunslingers face off and both empty their chambers and hit nothing but air, it's considered a draw. Trying to explain that your bullet was closer to hitting the other individual than theirs was to hitting you, doesn't count for squat. That may also get you labelled a cry baby, but not to worry, I've already been given that label. Luckily for me, you don't believe in labels.

At Bold:  Exactly who on Mueller team did he lose to leaks.  If you are talking about Strzok and Page then you really need to read up on their stories because it wasn't leaks from them that they were removed from the team.  I hope you have something better than that if not then I have to determine that you have absolutely no clue what a leak is, and you are just arguing a point in ignorance.

The point about exclusive information is that you can directly point it to someone under his control, if not then you are just throwing stuff in the wind to see if it hits anything.  The point is that you have absolutely nothing.  You do not have a name, event or even a rumor that someone from Mueller team has leaked any information.  You provided garbage links and still trying to defend them as if they showed anything.  You keep saying my belief is a theory but not only could you not find any hard evidence to dispute it, you could not even find any soft evidence to dispute it.  Its not a draw because you provided absolutely nothing to prove your point.  Your point seems to be there are leaks and by golly there is a chance one of them could have come from Mueller's team.   If this is what you consider a draw then we do not need to discuss this issue anymore.