Trump's Personal Lawyer And Campaign Manager Both Going To Prison

[Machiavellian]

EricHiggin said:

The first claim below

Machiavellian said: 

Also you nor I have absolutely no clue what information Mueller has on Trump personal involvement in the Russian meddling. I highly doubt you will see anything until he makes his report especially since his department seems to be air tight when it comes to leaks.

The first claim requires burden of proof. If it can be factually proven beyond doubt, then the other party is required to prove their claim and why the initial claim is false.

This is what was said on the other side, "seems to be", and this is what I said in my reply, "make it look like".

Why does that make my claim any different than theirs? Both are worded in a way that make it clear that neither of us know for sure what we're claiming is definite. So then what it would come down to is who had hard factual evidence, which neither of us did seems to be the consensus. How in anyway can that make me 'wrong' and the other side 'right'?

Again, at best, this talking point was a draw, so quit throwing petty insults instead of factual resolutions. Strength in numbers cannot change truth and fact, only the perception of it.

You are correct, I did state his team has been airtight.  So you are looking for me to provide proof that his team has not been airtight.  My proof is the same as I claimed.  You cannot find not one single incident where anyone from Mueller team has leaked any information.  Hell, I doubt you can even find any person on Mueller team who is alleged to have leaked any information.  The reason I know this is because just like you, I do my homework as well. The burden of proof on my part is that there isn't anything out there. 

Since you could not find anything that has showed that even come close to proving someone from Mueller team has leaked information, I am not even sure why you keep arguing this point.

Your claim is that Mueller team has leaked information but the links you provided did not even come close to even pointing one finger at anyone within Mueller team.  Instead all there was is information of leaks on information that was not exclusive to anything gained from Mueller investigation.  You would have maybe something to stand on if you could even find something along the lines where only Mueller team was the only people with this information but you cannot even do that.  You are basically making a conclusion that there is leaks so something must be coming from Mueller team because you feel it to be true.  In reality, you have absolutely nothing that even come close to proving your feelings and you arguing about it isn't going to make your point any more right.

There is no draw,