DélioPT said:
zorg1000 said:
It's very rare that late ports of successful games on successful platforms match the initial release. Skyrim, Batman Arkham or almost any previous gen port/remaster (GTAV is an anomaly) were never going to sell as much on PS4/XBO as they did on PS3/360. Do you know why? Almost everybody who was interested in them already played them.
You are using a logical fallacy, just because it didnt sell as much as MK8 (best selling game on the console) does not mean it wasnt held back. Donkey Kong sold like 1/8th the amount of MK8 on Wii U and it's pretty clear it was held back considering that the Switch version outsold the Wii U version's lifetime sales in just 2 months while costing more.
Why does it matter that it released later? They both had the same ~13.5 million people to sell to. One released earlier, the other released when the install base was higher, they cancel out.
Obviously there is no way of knowing until it releases and we see the sales but it's a pretty safe bet, like I said already pretty much every Wii U port on Switch has either already outsold the original or on track to do so which gives little reason to expect a popular IP lke 2D Mario to not do the same.
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"Do you know why? Almost everybody who was interested in them already played them."
Although i didn't write this, i agree.
No, it doesn't mean that NSMB U wasn't held back. You are right. But Smash, although presentting lower sales, sold almost as much as NSMB U. If the NSMBU game was greatly held back, it would have sold better, considering that the series usually sees sales well above the Smash series.
But, Switch sales for DK don't necessarily prove it was held back by Wii U sales. Given the amount of Switch consoles sold by the time it was released vs the 13.5 million consoles for the Wii U version, how much better did it actually sell?
Even if it was the same, the feeling surrounding both consoles were completely different. And that is always relevant.
Some time ago i pointed out to another use that with similar userbases (a mistake i made above), some wii u ports did not perform equal or better. They were either a bit below or below.
I'm talking about games like Pokken and Leco City Undercover.
Also, just because some Wii U games did perform better - assuming they did it on the same userbase the Wii U had - it doesn't necessarily mean that it would sell 10 million.
I didn't say it wouldn't sell better than the original. I said i wasn't sure it could reach those numbers.
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I dont really get your Smash Bros point. 3 systems have had both a 2D Mario & Smash Bros game, only Wii had a massive difference between the two so your point is moot.
As for the bolded, that's literally the entire point I'm making. Switch will have a much bigger install base than Wii U so Wii U ports have a lot more potential to sell.
And you're wrong about Pokken, it has already sold more on Switch than it did on Wii U. And maybe you're right about Lego City but I'm talking about Nintendo IP, I guess I should have clarified that.
