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Machiavellian on 20 September 2018
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KLAMarine said:
SpokenTruth said:

This is why debating you (and others with your opinion) leads to frustration.

I appreciate the sudden greater specificity. The less ambiguity, the better...

SpokenTruth said: 

Kaepernick is the central figure in this whole situation and you're not even aware he hasn't taken to the field since late 2016.  In other words, he stopped kneeling almost 2 years ago.   If you miss this part, what else do you guys miss?  We already had to show you his philanthropic activities, volunteering and political activism history.  Or that the kneeling itself was at the suggestion of a Green Beret because kneeling is a universal display of respect.

I had something of a suspicion that he hasn't played for a long time. This info wasn't very relevant to me when I first posted in this thread.

Has he indicated that he would stop kneeling if he were able to get back on the field?

SpokenTruth said: 

If you go into these things with just the Fox News/Sean Hannity information, we have to fill you in on so much relevant data.  We shouldn't have to fill you in on all that.

Assume you will have to be it out in public or on the internet.

SpokenTruth said: 

And we wouldn't if right leaning media would do its damn job instead of just trying to make you mad.

Let's not pretend left-leaning media is not itself also capable of misleading.

SpokenTruth said: 

It comes down to this.  People that truly care about an issue will research it.  People that just want to be mad, won't. You don't come off as the guy who just wants to be mad so please don't be that guy.

How do you know when someone just wants to be mad?

What it appears is that you are really not educated on the issue at all.  Not sure where you get your information or even if you care but it seems that the only thing I really got from you is that you do not support Kap kneeling.  What exactly about him kneeling that you do not like.  IS there anything specifically stating that kneeling during the anthem is unpatriotic or un American or whatever.  Until this whole thing started, I wonder if people were upset because others made an issue of it more than anything written.  In other words, if the same people changed their view (FOX) would people who do not support this non-violent action would have a different perspective.