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DélioPT said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:
I even highlighted the claim you made being "This is one of the Wii U games that wasn't a hot title or even a treasured one. Unlike MK8 or Mario Maker, for example." and I very much did ask for your reasoning behind this, to which you replied with "I heard things," no doubt purposely leaving out who you heard them from. However yes I do know I'm correct here, because as I've said the sales prove the majority likes the series, so the only place you could get a negative impression from be the minority.

Are you implying Sunshine being unmemorable is somehow a fact? "Did that change how people perceive the game until this day? No." This certainly implies you believe everyone thinks exactly the same about the game, but as I just proved that obviously isn't true.

Now my main question here still remains, why are you taking opinions over sales numbers?

"no doubt purposely leaving out who you heard them from"
Speculation. No more.

I'm not taking opinions over sales.
What i'm not ignoring is that this is a port of game from a series that has received a lot of criticism.

MK8 could outdo the original because the game was clearly hampered by Wii U sales. NSMB U wasn't. In fact, most of it's sales, if i'm not mistaken, come from HW bundles. Unlike MK8.

As to be clearer, i'm not claiming anything, i'm looking at how the series is perceived, i'm looking at how that might affect sales and i'm looking at how the game reach those sales in the first place.
Another thing. As far as we know this port is nothing more than a direct port of the NSMB U + NSL U. MK8 offer minor to meaningful changes.

You know that's not a sufficient response. Why are you being so awkward about this? The whole "not bother talking to one who thinks he's right" excuse falls flat when you continue responding to me. Is it that hard to admit you heard from the minority? It's really not a big deal. xD

"And i don't necessarily see big sales being a decisive factor" - Did you forget you said this? I'm certainly never going to forget lel. Additionally, your next line is only the first time this thread where you tried using sales in your reasoning. Can't blame me for not believing you when you say you don't take opinions over sales.

"MK8 could outdo the original because the game was clearly hampered by Wii U sales. NSMB U wasn't. In fact, most of it's sales, if i'm not mistaken, come from HW bundles. Unlike MK8." - You say you're not making claims yet that is two right there. We can all clearly see the difference in sales between NSMB2 and NSMBU, and MK8 was also bundled as was every major Wii U game.

I noticed you completely dropped the Sunshine point. That's definitely for the best.