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EricHiggin said:

You point out Trump is a liar, always has been, always will be, with so much hard evidence... I point out so has the media, and for much longer and much more substantial than Trump since he hasn't been Prez for long. You completely ignore this and point out again how only Trump and his administration can be wrong. I call that excuses.

It's hard to know when someone is being victimized, when there are so many playing victim, and doing an award winning job at it. Some not so much. So if I don't have a problem with the behavior and tolerate it, then it's not excuses? Because I don't for the most part. Problem solved then?

There is also just dropping and bypassing an argument completely, like some people tend to do over the course of a conversation... Would you rather everyone turn a blind eye when they can't, beyond a shadow of a doubt, back up their claims, yet reply with another non related argument to try and make their case?

A bunch of the points I made point out how both sides could be viewed as just as bad as the other, and instead of agreeing with any of them, you always take the side against Trump. The weather is never always just too hot or too cold, too wet or too dry, etc. If it ever was, you would definitely know there was a problem.

So your expectations from your leader is that when put in a high pressure job that he will act like a victim and his way of dealing with it is to lie about everything.  Ok, we do not need to go down this route anymore.  I perfectly understand what your expectations are.

Here is the thing about your second point, I am not talking about anyone else.  I am not talking about the left, the right or the middle because I do not care about those labels.  I feel they are just labels put on a group so you can group them together and paint them with a broad stroke.  What I see is people and individual action. So to answer your question, yes people can be bad no matter what side they support but at the end of the day, I am only talking about one individual. 

My beef against Trump as I have stated many times is that I believe he is a con man.  Before the election I did a lot of research on Trump because I had no clue about him until he ran for president.  From that research, the only thing I could find about him was just another corrupt businessman.  During that time and now, he has done exactly what he has done before being president.  He has an uncanny ability to be totally ignorant on things and do not take any time to prepare or understand complex issues. He uses people and will lie to get what he wants which has been evident before he became president.  He will tell any group or people what they want to hear but he stands for nothing.  Trump is a 2 edge sword.  Since he stands for nothing, as long as you give him what he wants he will give you the time of day.  The only problem is that since he stands for nothing, he is easily swayed by the winds of opinion and greed.  I

So no, I will not look the other way when someone continues to BS me all the time.  If I cannot trust their word then I cannot trust their actions.  Lets just leave it at that.

Now if you want to get back on topic then let's talk about Manafort plea deal.  Are you going to dismiss his plea deal as nothing.  I do not remember what your stance was on Cohen going down but what is your stance on both Cohen and Manafort plea deals.