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Miyamotoo on 15 September 2018
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DélioPT said:
Miyamotoo said:

I dont see any problem with Switch lineup and releases even if there are plenty of ports/remasters, sales and popularity of Switch show there is no problem.

I came from point that CoD games from PS3/360 were ported to Wii, and when we talking about difference between Wii and 360/PS3, we talking about much bigger difrence in any case (so power, tech, architecture, controls...) than comparing to Switch and XB1/PS4. That was my point, like I wrote, question is how much those games would need to be cut back and if devs want to make and invest in that kind of game. Some devs are viling to that some are not, for instance Bethesda is willing to invest in those sort of games on Switch.

Switch dont have plenty of new AAA 3rd party games, but has new AA and smaller games, also has games like Fifa and NBA. Hype cant day fast because people are not hyped about new AAA muliplatform games on Switch in first place, and thats not whats making Switch popular.

But Doom is quite demanding game, it runs at 830p most of time on XB1, if that game is not demanding it would run any locked 1080p on XB1. Like I wrote, every game could be ported on Switch, only question how much would need be cut back.

Nintendo always take chances, its risking most of 3 companies. Switch is succes, period, only question is how big succes will be at end. Nintendo will probably keep with Switch and unifed platform and with Switch, there is no chanche that after Switch they will again start releasing two totaly different platforms.

Games like Pokemon and AC now, always perform best in Japan if we look size of markets, but those games are doing great on West also, and AC is has increased popularity after 3ds version of game and Tomodachi Life that was very popular in Europe.

If Switch had a better library: more sales now and in the years to come. Switch risks being known for the go to console for ports and remasters.
Not really a good way to "sell" your product.

The reason more devs aren't bringing their games to Switch is because it wouldn't pay off or the result would be to bad for it to succeed.
Bethesda is doing this with Doom because it has the right engine. It doesn't matter of XB1 can't pull it off at certain settings. What matters is if the developer can scale to a point where it can run on Switch if a certain criteria is met. And it can. 
On the other hand, we might not get Rage 2 because of the engine not being able to allow that port.

You misunderstood what i said about hype.
It relates to your statement that people were hyped about what's announced for Switch. To what i replied that if they were given the library that XB1 and PS4 have, you'd see that hype for ports and remasters die quickly.

Also, hype for AA games is not what Nintendo wished for any of it's consoles. Like the other manufacturers they want the best games and the most games they can get their hands on.
And you should want more than Switch offers. I know i do.

How much of a success will Switch be if things stay the same vs a platform that can get the best games?
Btw, from i said earlier, it's not a coincidence that the top 3 3rd party games - with the exception of the Ubisoft game - were either announced with the console or released at launch.
That needs to change, quickly!

To be honest, i have no idea if AC has increased in popularity or not. Can't comment on that.

And If it had worse library it would sell less now and in years to come, you can say same thing for every other platform including PS4, so that's totally pointless to say. Point that Switch is selling very good means that Switch has very good library also. Who cares even if Switch has plenty of ports when it sells very good and its very popular platform, you ignoring fact that Switch is selling very good despite has plenty of ports. Talking about ports, Switch already has 8 confirmed Nintendo games for next year and only one of them is a port, so how time passes Switch will have more and more new games and less ports.

The reason some devs are dont bringing their games to Switch is because they have limited resources and some of them don't want to spend resources for third version of game, not because they can't make profit on Switch, thats why companies that actually bringing games to Switch are hiring other companies for ports. Dont forget, Panic Button said they have so many Switch port proposals that they are forced to choose on what projects they will work and rejecting others. But like I wrote, some devs simply just dont want to cut back its game in order it could run on Switch. No, Bethesda is not doing Doom port on Switch because its right engine, if its right engine for Switch game wouldnt run around 600p in docked mode on Switch, reason why Bethesda is done Doom port and why doing Doom Eternal game for Switch is simply because they know it would be good fit for platform where you dont have much 1st party shooter, they know it would sell enough that they would make profit, and they know it would run well enough, they defiantly made well enugh profit when they decided to make Doom Eternal also. You are wrong when you say that Rage 2 engine wouldn't allow port on Switch, Bethesda said they are uncertain about Switch port not it's impossible.

But point is that Nintendo platform didnt had strong 3rd party support from SNES, and of course that people are hyping every bigger/stronger 3rd party game even we talking about ports/remasters, espacily when we talk about back mainline FE games on Switch.

What Nintendo wants for its consoles is that platform is popular and that hardware and games are selling very well, they also want they have strongest support possible with all on mind, thats why they have great relationship even with Indies. So they reaaly dont care if people hyping AA or Indie game until Switch keep selling good and people actually hyping something Switch related.

Lol, you do realise that Switch will be huge success despite other consoles have much better 3rd party support!? Probably at end of next year Switch will pass XB1 numbers despite had XB1 has big new AAA 3rd party games that Switch dont. Of Course it's not coincidence that we have Skyrim one of most popular game of last gen (even Bethesda said they released it on Switch because they thougth that Zelda players will love it) and that we have Fifa one of most popular 3rd party game and yearly franchise in world are among best selling 3rd party games on Switch. Nothing really dont needs to change fast, Switch is getting increased support and more 3rd party announcements.

And yet again, I dont see point discussion with you, simply you posting so much things that dont make sense and I completely disagree with you, so I dont see point of further discussion, so I will not reply to you any more.

Last edited by Miyamotoo - on 15 September 2018