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HoangNhatAnh said:
Faelco said:

Huge differences. 

 

The 3DS is also bad compared to the GameBoy and the GameBoy Advance. 

And the explanation for the lower sales during the PS3 era is simple: competition. The PS2 generation sold in total around 200M consoles, and the PS2 crushed the very weak competition with 160M. The PS3 generation sold 260M in total, so a lot more, but it was around 100/80/80M, no-one crushed the others. PS3 gen > PS2 gen. 

The 3DS, on the other hand, has no direct competition compared to the DS. The DS generation (DS-PSP) sold 230M, the 3DS generation sold 90M. Even without competition, and even if it took 100% of the market, it would still be a huge fall. 3DS gen <<<<<<<< DS gen. 

It's not "The DS was a monster, you can't compare", it's that the entire handheld market attained its peak at that time and is falling hard since then, mostly because of mobile gaming (which is exploding further every year).

 

And now, only the Switch kind of remains on this market, with home console playability to add interest. We'll see if they sell more than 90M consoles to stop the fall.

 

The home console market attained its peak last gen, it will be down this gen, and maybe even more next gen. Mobile gaming doesn't only affect handheld sales, especially in Japan. 

In Sony case, yeah. In Nin case, as long as Nin portable still have full Pokemon/Animal Crossing/Mario Kart/Super Smash Bros and all Nintendo proper first party games while mobile phone only have things like Fire Emblem Heroes, Super Mario Run and Pokemon Go, their system will be fine. 

My previous comment literally proved the opposite. The market crashed with a 60% fall. Nintendo resisted better, sure, but still crashed with a 50% fall. That's not "fine".

If a market is shrinking, the worst thing the leader of this market can do is saying "We're the leader, we're strong, we'll be fine" like you're saying. That's how companies, even strong ones or giants, go bankrupt. 

If the handheld market keep shrinking, Nintendo will limit the damage for a while, sure, but they will just be the leader of a niche market with only the most hardcore fans, a shadow of the past. 

Why do you think they started to release mobile games? For fun? No. The market is shifting from handheld to mobile, so they have to follow it. And they will keep doing more and more mobile games in the future. 

 

It's also why Sony is working on game streaming, Microsoft on services, and why both Nintendo and Sony went from 2 consoles to only one. Handheld are the first to go, but home consoles are also shrinking, so all the actors are preparing for a shift in their model, at least in part. 

Last edited by Faelco - on 11 September 2018