Sony Boss: Fortnite On PlayStation 4 Is The Best Experience For Users

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HylianSwordsman said:

forevercloud3000 said:

I am just saying that there were so many internal and external factors going on in what was a financially turbulent world during that gen. The World was in a recession and that definitely effected sales of all sorts of electronic industries. That is maybe one of the biggest reasons why the vastly cheaper and Unique Wii experience appealed as an alternative to costly hulking hardware, plus....Nintendo. A price tag of $600 was always going to slow down the speed of which the console could sell. Historically the sweet spot for consoles has been around the $200 mark. The 360 was a very comparable and cheaper alternative, that was also out for an entire year gaining a sizable lead that then created a domino effect of "My friend has X already, I'll get that". All these things are what effected the PS3, not statement backlash or implied arrogance. This is further reinforced by all things considered the PS3 still caught up to the competition.

Take the Xbox One situation at the beginning of this gen. Sure, lots of media backlash about  "TV TV TV" and "Always Online". Them saying it didn't effect the sales, it was the fact that most realized they would be incapable of playing a console that is Online required. There is a sizable portion of America that doesn't even have high speed internet infrastructure (Ironically Fallout 76 takes place in West Virginia which is one such place but is Online required).It's performance is due to stiff competition that debuted not just at a cheaper price but also technically more powerful and a longer/stronger pedigree in the industry. I sell Video Games for a living so I also have first hand knowledge of game buying consensus. Just today I had a guy return an XB1 because he had not realized it is inoperable the first time booting up without connecting it to internet.....still. Its the real world ramification of their actions taking effect, not some petty spiteful protest.

Do you think that if Sony didn't make that comment about getting a Second Job the PS3 wouldn't have still struggled to sell at $600? That's what I'm saying, what they said didn't mean crap, it was the overall choices in price, timing, and tech constraints. Just like what they are saying now about crossplay doesn't mean crap. Not having crossplay doesn't harm those who have a PS4....just those who don't/won't. Think about which Sony cares about..... which SHOULD they be caring about? Like should Sony be really making decision based on people who can't/won't/don't own their devices unless it is in the vein to attract them? The paradox of this whole debate is the idea behind Sony allowing Crossplay is to ensure some gamers DON'T have to buy a PS4. LOL whut!?

 

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Why you should care about Console Manufacturers Business model

And some keep saying "Well I'm not an investor, I'm a Gamer and Gamers should want this." and i find the stance so child like. Its like you don't care about the practicality you are just having a tantrum on the grocery store floor because you want something. "I want candy! I want candy!", with no consideration for the fact your parents have finite funds to ensure you survive.

I like having everything I want too but not at the detriment of internal collapse. Every single gamer is indeed an investor when you buy a console. How well that console does is your "return". When they do well, your gaming health is doing well. Sony knows opening the Crossplay doors to their competitors is bad for future business and as an investor I back their sentiment.

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As Far as me being a Fanboy.....

Sony's effectiveness in the last 4 console generations has allowed me to own one console every gen and pretty much never go without a gaming experience that I wanted. Zero need to buy multiple consoles. I can maybe count on one hand how many gaming experiences I felt I missed out on by not having the other consoles. Some might call that Fanboy Loyalty but It is actually a well thought out and well informed buying decision everytime. I am a frugal person in general. I COULD afford multiple consoles, but I have consolidated my buying practice so the need is unnecessary. If that makes me a fanboy than so be it.

It still sounds like you're trying to rationalize the bad things Sony is doing and have done. They lost tremendous marketshare in the PS3 era, you can't just write that off as the economics of a $600 console. It wasn't just the price, it was the marketing behind the price, and the reality that the price wasn't worth it. The marketing was arrogant, simply pricing it at $600 at all when it wasn't really the better hardware for most games was arrogant, and flaunting the hardware like it was some godlike thing that was going to change gaming when most programmers didn't want to take the time to learn its intricacies, thus making for inferior 3rd party ports, just taking for granted that their hardware would make better games was arrogant, and it all led to a console that should have sold better than the Wii barely beating its competitor. It had inferior 3rd parties and a higher price for no reason, and fans that were upset were told to get another job. That harms the brand. Lots of people own multiple consoles because they disagree with you that there's nothing the other two have to offer, or PC and mobile for that matter, and Sony refusing not only to do cross platform play, but also locking 3rd party accounts to its platform, just serves to piss those people off. If you're a Sony-Nintendo gamer, and Sony locks your account to the Sony console, it would be completely rational to switch to be a PC-Nintendo or Xbox- Nintendo gamer. As someone who's been a Sony-Nintendo gamer since PS1, this bullshit is seriously making me consider switching to PC-Nintendo, because quite frankly, if you think you're not missing out by not having a good gaming PC, you're pretty objectively wrong. Maybe subjectively you feel there's not enough PC exclusive experiences to make it worth it, but objectively, there are a lot of them out there, and if you really can afford multiple consoles, you might actually like some of them if you weren't too busy trying to rationalize your PS4 purchase. Owning multiple platforms doesn't mean your favorite console isn't a good purchase. But whatever, you do you man, I'm just saying, endlessly rationalizing Sony's actions on a gaming forum doesn't help Sony, or you. Sony can't hear your praises, and you just burrow deeper into your bubble of thinking. If that bubble pops in some future generation, it'll be a rude awakening.

It's you who is trying to rationalize this romanticized notion of Divine Market Justice. I have explained the plethora of ways and reasons more tactile real world situations effected the PS3's performance. There are so many there is no need to even attribute something as unprovable as Market punishment.

You forget, its only the hardcore of gamers who even keep up with what the game developers say on such topics because we are the core "investors". Most casuals are completely oblivious to these semantics. 

And like I stated, my buying purchases are meticulously calculated for my tastes. The day I see more JRPGs come to any other platform at the pace they come to playstation will be a day indeed. PC offers likely the most games by a country mile, but statistically it is mostly filled to the absolute brim with indie level shovelware the likes of which only the Wii has ever experienced. Quantity over Quality. The games that are of extreme quality on PC usually get ported to console....most of which I am still not that interested in. Consoles are the big leagues of gaming, PC is minor and honestly the most cost inefficient of the options.