HollyGamer said:
Torillian said:
But that irrefutable logic gets to be thrown out when it comes to that cause itself when you say it's a Creator. That's why this argument seems so disingenuous is you say that obviously since everything we've ever seen happen had a cause that the universe itself must have had a cause and that cause is a god who for some reason doesn't need to have a cause even though we just went over how everything had to have a cause. For those who are more scientifically inclined it just doesn't make any sense to forego all logic the second it pertains to this cause you want to claim the universe had to have.
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Then tell me other alternative if it's not something , some entity , then who or what ???
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When you don't know what causes something the answer is simple: I don't know. Coming up with magical solutions to a problem is not actually any better than "I don't know" and the latter is a lot more honest in my view.
And again, if everything needs to have a cause, then what caused this entity? You haven't figured out a solution to the problem, you've only created a new one.
