Playstation hits 80m+ monthly active users!

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potato_hamster said:

It's pretty obvious that those buttons on blu-ray remotes weren't a Sony standard. Perhaps you should actually look at another brand when considering your next electronics purchase.

So 2 GB of ram and a nothingburger of storage. I guess it's not running PS4's OS, is it? Do you know how much RAM Android 7.1 requires? 512 MB. It should have 2GB to run top-end features properly. Still it looks like you're going to have to up those specs to run PS4's OS, are you not? Do you honestly think the sales drop has anything to do with not putting PS4's OS on televisions? Need I remind you that the PS4's OS has far less app support than the old Sony TV OS had which again is far less than android TV. Never mind all of the other built in features that televisions are expected to have that PS4s don't that Sony would have to develop. It's hard to see Android TV as being the problem there. Perhaps it's the fact that televisions are getting cheaper and cheaper to make but Sony's prices tend to stay the same.

The problem with their old OS wasn't that it was yet another platform to develop apps for vs iOS and Android, as I've already stated, there was far better app support for Sony's old TV OS than the PS4 ever has had and likely ever will have. Besides, how does swapping out Android OS on Sony phones with PS4's OS solve that problem. Developers would still have to support iOS/Android/PS4OS. You're not making developers support less operating systems, you're just swapping out the third OS they'd have to develop for. And no, it wouldn't simplify things for developers. Example: All phone apps would have to be able to run on a PS4, would they not?  Otherwise, it wouldn't be unified, would it? How many phone OSs work natively with PS4 controllers? How many phone OSs have to support both devices that do have touchscreens and ones that do not? Developing for a PS4 OS that operates on devices with dramatically different inputs and outputs makes development more complicated, and a bigger pain in the ass. Not less.

Also, you need to demonstrate that Sony's profits off of sharing revenue with Google off of running their OS would be less than they would get forcing users to buy in on a completely new operating system, and thus forcing users to abandon their investment in that ecosystem already, for a PS4 OS with a handful of apps, which would need to have dozens of apps that are considered required for many people ready to go on launch. I mean really, it's sweet how you think this is even remotely reasonable.

You know for as long as you've been pitching this, you've still never explained why Sony would succeed where Microsoft clearly failed. It must be Microsoft's clear lack of experience developing operating systems.

I have never owned a DVD or Blu-ray player, because I have always had a PlayStation or an Xbox. I did look at other TV's when I purchased my Z9D, and that is how I know that Android TV is by far the biggest pile of garbage available in the TV space. Even the cheap brands function faster and more reliably than the Bravia's. When it comes to the picture I am looking for though, I still prefer FALED over OLED, and the Z9D was easily the best in my eyes.

If developers were willing to support 14 Million Sony TVs a year on their old OS, I don't think they would have any issue selling them on the idea of making apps that would be available to an ecosystem selling 35 to 45 Million devices a year or more. 

Yes, I absolutely believe that the inconsistency between Sony products has hurt sales. 

PS4 controller has a touchpad. It does not need a special interface overhaul. They could add button support if they wanted, but I don't think it should be a requirement. With good dev tools, some of these features could be supported automaticaly as well.

Are the Billions in losses over the last 5 years at SMC vs the Billions in Profits at SIE in the same time period not enough to demonstrate how terrible Android is for Sony?

I have talked about how Microsoft failed plenty of times. You can not build a new OS that does not tie into the rest of your ecosystem. That is why Windows Phone failed, and that is why Bravia and Xperia are failing. Microsoft tried to build Windows Phone from the ground up, completely seperate from Windows and Xbox. Then they went directly at Android and iOS at their own game, without any of their big assets. Windows Phone failed, because it was an absolute disaster from every angle.

Microsoft has finally figured it out now, and that is why they have rebuilt everything from the ground up around scalability. They realize any investment they make has to support the entire company. With the Universal Windows Platform, they are setting themselves up for success. Now devs can make one app that works across all Microsoft products. Next time they go after Mobile they will do it with a massive library of Apps and Xbox Games, offering the complete Microsoft expereince. With the Phone being part of the family, it will not have to sell gangbusters to succeed. Just like Xbox, they can chip away with 10 Million a year, and be perfectly fine.