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PotentHerbs said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Oh sure. 

Sony will never charge for online.

Indie games don’t matter.

Downloadable games don’t count. 

Rumble is not important.

Power is extremely important, until Scorpio, now it’s irrelevant. 

Etc etc. You’re talking about fans flip flopping to suit their favorite toy maker, which happens all the time on every site, but doesn’t have anything to do with what I said or what I was replying to.

Sure it does.

Why should I take MS fans on this site, who constantly deflect and defend, any more serious than you take Sony fans on this site, who constantly downplay?

All sides have down players. But no other fan base on this site, is as nonchalant as MS fans, when it comes to gaming criticisms. 

BTW, a lot of people expected Sony to charge for online.

I don't remember people discounting indie/ downloadable games. Games like Flower & Limbo were constantly cited in list wars back in PS360 days. 

There was this site that's apparently shut down called "Facts vs Fanboys" that was always quoted on vgchartz. Even well into this generation. It pretty much said

 

Only retail games with a metacritic score of _______ mattered. I think it was 80% because great games like Lost Odyssey didn't make the cut.

Kinect and Mobe games didn't count as games until the creators added them at the very end of the generation. Digital games never counted. The narrative was that Xbox didn't have any exclusive games for years. It didn't matter if (for examplee) it had Witcher 2 and PS3 didn't. The rules were laid out. 

 

I didn't agree with the site and, as an owner of both consoles last gen, I always had a reason to fire them both up and play for hours and hours on end. A lot of people here did, though. It was a venomous time and debates were really heated. In a way, I'm a little glad there wasn't a real "war" this generation.