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Faelco on 26 August 2018
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Lafiel said:
Faelco said:

I never use that term, but Battlefield is a good example of rewriting history to make it fit with the morals that some people have today.

Like making Achilles or a British Queen black. "History hurts my feeling, so we should modify History to make it according to my principles". It's a very dangerous slope, and is usually used in totalitarian regimes or dystopias.

If you read books like 1984, A brave new world or Fahrenheit 451, you would recognize some obvious patterns that our society started to follow lately. Fahrenheit 451, particularly, explains that it became a society of forbidden (and burned) knowledge and culture because of "SJW". They explain that some small groups of people started to make stuff that offended them forbidden, like books or shows, and it became worse and worse, to the point where almost all scientific knowledge, history, or culture is banned from society. Because it's offensive and can hurt the feelings of some people.

History is History. It's bad? Then good, it will show to new generations what to do or not. But rewriting History because it offenses you? Who those people think they are?

Firstly, Battlefield 5 is by faaaar not the first in the series to have events or characters that didn't exist/happen or were rewritten to be more manageable to the modern palate, were you complaining back then? There are tons and tons of games releasing each year that are altered that way and not "to fit with moral standards some people have today", but to fit the sensibilities of the main target-audience (US/western 14-40 year old males) and we let it slide? Why? Because these games have no claim to historical accuracy, they are not works of historians and not used/ment to educate.

Achilles is a fictional/mythological character from the Illiad, we can't ask Homer what his dermal light absorption coefficent is supposed to be, but as he was supposed to be a Greek living some 3k years ago I suspect is higher than mine. At least I can agree that I haven't heard of a black british Queen, yet I don't know a reason why a work of fiction ment to entertain wouldn't be allowed to display one of them as such - are you fine with limiting creative freedom?

You are name dropping 1984, A brave new world and talking about Fahrenheit 451 as if it was a documentary - it isn't, it's a thought experiment with a very limited scope for complexity, the real world is more complex than that.

History should be displayed as undistorted as possible in works ment to educate about history.

I can partly agree, and I understand what you mean with the creative freedom, no problem here. 

 

The main issue is the reaction. Saying "You're stupid, misogynist, on the wrong side of History, basically a Nazi" when someone disagree with what creative freedom did is what's wrong. Don't say to people who wants to stick to the fact that the facts are wrong and "the wrong side of History". If they just stick to the creative freedom and explain that they're in a "What if" world, then there would be a lot less arguments about those cases. 

 

You would obviously always have some internet trolls or real racists/misogynists complaining, but the debates would be far more peaceful and shorter if everyone was answering like you instead of "You're a uneducated Nazi, don't buy our product".

 

The Star Wars controversy is a good example. The Last Jedi had a lot of plot flaws and a lot of poorly written and handled stuff that fans didn't like, but if you say that you didn't like it, then you're a stupid reactionary far right supporter. The character of Rose is very poorly written, with an awful face-palming plot full of logical flaws and angrying decisions, but people who don't like her are racist and misogynistic because nobody is allowed to complain about a female Asian character, even if the very numerous flaws have nothing to do with her race or gender. Fans were also racist Nazis when they complained about Jar-Jar! 

Last edited by Faelco - on 26 August 2018