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the-pi-guy said:
potato_hamster said:

Never. The answer is never. I never even said the Virtual Boy was a good VR implementation because it wasn't. But it was a consumer-level commercially available VR product. There's no denying that. The fact that it's seen as such a poor implementation today has much to do with hindsight.

I never said you made that comparison.

No it wasn't hindsight.  People and reviewers were complaining that it was bad a year before it was even released.  

potato_hamster said: 

Whose to say in 20 years time we won't look back at PSVR or Oculus RIft or HTC Vive and think that they were also poor VR implementations? This cycle has repeated itself many times in the world of VR. This is just the latest one.

I said the current gen is also poor VR, in this very thread.  The current gen is basically the minimum that works.  

potato_hamster said: 

You've asked people that were optimistic about VR about their credentials? Where? In this thread? You only asked me. If you can't be unbiased about this, then it seems unreasonable for your to participate. You're a moderator, and you're holding people to two different standards based on your bias.

Mostly other websites.  
I don't need to ask every single person about something in order to be unbiased and to be able to participate.  

potato_hamster said: 

If they're waiting for PC solutions, they're going to be waiting a long, long time for the price to come down.
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What's wrong with my comparisons? The only comparisons I'm making are VR solutions to VR solutions.

The price has already dropped considerably.  The Rift is $200-250 cheaper than when it released.  

You were making comparisons to other mediums like the cell phone and the car.  Despite the fact that some of those things didn't actually blow up right away.  They spent years being perfected, before becoming huge.  

"You might need credentials to try making quality comparisons to the Virtual Boy.  "

"I never said you made that comparison."

One of those is true. You said both.

People and reviewers also said that the Oculus Rift was bad, the PSVR was bad and the HTC vive was bad. So there's that.

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So the current gen is also poor? That's interesting. Since when is "good enough" the same as "poor"?

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Ahh so you asked for other people's credentials elsewhere. That sounds valid. I totally believe you. What's your VR credentials again?
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The price has dropped considerably has it? How about the computered needed to run the headsets at a rate that don't give you a headache after 20 minutes? Only like $1000 to go before VR reaches a point where people might actually consider buying one on PC, and that is after they're convinced to put their PC in a big enough space to play VR. VR is a totally easy sell! I swear it's like selling an iPhone or an HDTV or a Car. They practically sell themselves!

I wasn't making comparisons to iPhones and cars per se, someone else did, and I said those examples were poor, and pointed out different reasons why, and more specifically why they did blow up when they did, and how that doesn't apply very well to VR. Did you actually read this thread? (that's how I'm supposed to do that, right?)

Also, Today I learned that cars were perfected in the 1920's.