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HoloDust on 18 August 2018
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Vini256 said:
HoloDust said:

Same here - I find BotW to be worst 3D Zelda (MM excluded, only one I haven't finished, time mechanism annoyed me to no end), and I consider myself Zelda fan. To be honest, I wanted formula to change a bit, since balance between puzzles and exploration was off, but BotW is all upside down, lot of pointless exploration without good puzzles (no, shrines, aka Portal for toddlers, do not and cannot replace proper temples and dungeons).

So yeah, it's really sad, since that will just convince them they're on the right track. Just like Bethesda went full mass market with Skyrim, which pales so badly comapred to Morrowind.

I agree (Especially with the bolded part). The formula needed fixing instead of straight up replacement. To me open-world exploration is the definition of filler, it feels like I'm just walking for 5-10 minutes straight until I find anything worthwhile. As for the puzzles, I thought they were ridiculously easy as well. Sure, the puzzles in the older games weren't super hard either, but at least you could get stuck in the dungeons for a while before figuring out where to go/how to solve a puzzle since you couldn't just cheese them with physics or by using metal weapons, etc. BotW is the "westernized/mass market" version of Zelda and it just makes me sad.

I don't find open-world to be bad per se, after all first Zelda was open world, I've been playing and liking open world games for some 30+ years...and anyone who knows me around here has a fair impression of what I think of Aonuma and his approach to Zelda. Yet I found this specific implementation of open world just plain bad and pointless, so much that I got bored of it after 10 or so hours and had to muscle through the game (only interesting area for me was Gerudo town).

This is indeed, unfortunatelly, mass market Zelda that follows lot of bad trends that became popular over the last decade or so. But I'm fairly old and I have seen lot of IPs that I liked a lot go down that road - in the end, you just learn to let it go and find something else...with a little bit of hope burried somewhere deep that sometime in the future maybe things will change for the better for IP you liked so much.