Democrats Vote To Give Trump Obscene $717 Billion Mílítary Budget

[Mr Puggsly]

Pemalite said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Socialism and capitalism are antithetical. Social programs and capitalism is a different story. On a side note, we can't have open borders and welfare state, Australia knows that. But democrats are leaning towards less border security.

Well. We don't have open borders, we have some of the strictest immigration laws in the world, with tons of background checking.
But that still isn't enough for some people. (Apparently you can't please everyone, who would have thought?)

Welfare needs to be kept minimal, but also needs to be extremely efficient.
"Free" Education and Healthcare, concessions for housing, electricity, water and so on go a long way to assisting to that end.

Mr Puggsly said:

I wasn't implying the US was going to give better deals than China. Many countries import to the US because we have more buying power, the tariff thing is happening because Trump feels we're getting a bad deal on exports.

The point is, Tariffs aren't doing the US any favors in regards to buying power.
Why would we want to do business with the US, when they are going to tax everything when we can get a better deal with China?

I think we agree on the first part. A majority of the country isn't opposed to safety nets per se, but if the US isn't gonna be efficient about it then its gonna develop opposition. Also, we just aren't big fans of high taxes. People in this country tend to move from cities/states with high living costs and taxes. Major cities are seeing an exodus for this very reason, they tend to lean into left wing ideology.

Well ideally, I think the end of this tariff war would be lowered tariffs from all countries. That's essentially the point. Its arguably working well with Europe, might not end well with China, but we'll see.