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contestgamer on 12 August 2018
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the-pi-guy said:
lightningfunk said:

the people arguing that there should be free stuff really need to hit rock bottom so that they can learn something new like economics

It's not free stuff.  It's economics of scale.  Many things are cheaper when you buy them in bulk.  Healthcare is one of those things.  

massimus said:

People should move there if it’s so great. They are all open borders. They should trade their food stamps for cash on a 1 way ticket and free themselves from this tyranny. 

The "leave if you don't like something" argument is nonsense.  The US is literally founded on the ability to disagree with how government is done.  

lightningfunk said:

also all the medical innovation happens in free market countries like USA

Nice conjecture with no facts.  

Additionally the US government actually pays for a lot of medical innovation.  So the idea that it's private businesses that do all the innovating is false on its face.

contestgamer said:

their hospitals arent as cutting edge as ours. You'll see the difference the moment you walk in.

False.  They factually have better results.  

o_O.Q said:

whenever i see someone say some shit like "free healthcare" i just fucking cringe lol

its like these people think that government waves a magic wand and pulls services from the aether

the fact of the matter is that everything government provides is funded by money TAKEN FROM YOU

some of that money may be used to provide services sure, but some is also funneled into 

 

injection portions of the population with pathogens

propaganda campaigns 

selling drugs to children

etc

at this stage in the game if you exclusively trust the government with your health then aren't really thinking clearly

1.) No one is trusting government exclusively with health.  Many countries also have private insurances to back up their public insurances.  They have the best of both worlds.

2.)  Yet, a lot of people trust their government to build a wall, and have a ~700 billion dollar military, and nuclear weapons.  They also trust a police force with military grade weapons.

3.) In this case, it is not the government taking of our health.  It's government paying the bill, because economics of scale makes it work.  Private hospitals are the ones that are facilitating care.

massimus said:

You’re not open borders? What are you, right wing racists?

No one was called a racist for being against open borders.  

Trump was called a racist, because he said mexicans, in general, were rapists and drug dealers.  

Yeah better results for the majority, but thats misleading, because many here cant afford healthcare. Those that can afford good healthcare get better results HERE than they do in Germany. So healthcare is better here at the highest level than in Germany. I's not a coincidence that billionaires fly in from all around the world for treatments in the US and not Germany.