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Dulfite said:
Azzanation said:

Those Rare games you mentioned on the Xbox were Rare with creative freedom, can you blame MS for putting them in the Kinect market after those average games? Rare actually made good games with Kinect just to note sadly.

Star Fox Adventures and Donkey Kong 64 which were average games at best and Nintendo selling Rare off kind of proves that Rare was at a downfall way before MS took over. Also there were Gems on Xbox as well with Kameo and Viva Piñata.

MS so far have done good things with Killer Instinct and hopefully the upcoming Battletoads. I wouldn't be blaming MS for Rares downfall. Rare got old and lost its way.

And just to prove my point, Yooka Laylee was made with creative freedom by the original Rare team with no MS involvement, the same original team behind Banjo Nutz n Bolts, and Yooka Layee it sits on a (73 Meta) disappointing. Those wanting to blame MS for Rare's downfall are just those in denial. The real truth is Rare was losing its talent over the years. Nintendo knew this.

I am a huge Rare fan and was a big Nintendo fanboy back in my early years of gaming. I wouldn't be saying this to downplay them, I am just being honest with my opinions about them.

SF Adventures and DK64 are some of the happiest gaming memories I have. Every SF game since that had been horrible or ok, and DK had reverted back to a shallow 2-d experience with no story. 

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed my time with SF Adventures and DK64 however they weren't masterpieces, not the Rare games I was expecting anyway. SF Adventures was a forced Rare title to carry the Star Fox name by Nintendo instead of its original direction of Dinosaur Planet and aside from its visuals (Something Rare does always good) the game fell flat on its face while DK64 got reviewed well but the Rare charm finally fell with me on that one. Than that's when we got Grabbed by the Ghoulies and Perfect Dark Zero.. Rare was totally lost in direction and needed help. Unfortunately like Sega and many other old great companies, you cant always help the fallen.