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Pemalite said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I don't even hear about the alt right much if at all. I'm not arguing they aren't bad people, I'm simply arguing Antifa is horrible and appear to be more prevalent.

Are they more prevalent? Or are the Media just making it seem like it?

Kinda' need actual statistics before assertions are thrown around.

Mr Puggsly said:

Its people with left wing views that generally hate this country. Even Obama toured the world apologizing for the US. Now that's sad, having a leader that doesn't actually like their country.

You really dislike the left don't you?

NYCrysis said:


Why does everyone in this thread act like there is only an x axis to the left and right when there is also a y axis as well. Anything too far from the center is a threat to society. I personally favor the left bottom centrist. Education, and health should be universal and free. 

Indeed, the Center is the best place to be, there you can weigh up the arguments from the left or right and go with whoever is more compelling for the betterment of all society.

Although, that chart is pretty rough, you can be far-right pro-capitalist, but then support left-wing ideals like Universal healthcare/education and so on.

Kalkano said:

No such thing.  Your "Free" stuff is taxed out of your income at an extreme rate.  This would hike taxes up to ~50% of our paychecks.

You sure about that? Because there are countries with said Universal systems with tax rates under 50%.

SuaveSocialist said:


Brace yourself for an even bigger tax hike, then. The  cost for Socialized healthcare and Socialized post-secondary education is significantly less than the extra 100 billion going towards your Socialized military-- though Socialized healthcare is known to cost less than West Korea's current system.

The United States Health and Education systems are already prohibitively expensive on a per-capita basis and bring in results that fall short of competitors.
So socialized healthcare and education can save the country money if implemented correctly in a cost-effective manner.

Well if there are white supremacist groups making a ruckus, the media would love to cover it. I mean if the KKK and Nazis came together to harass democrats at restaurants, I'd like to think we would see some coverage.

I despise the left, they've become an extreme party. That's not just my view by the way, the wackiness of the left is arguably moving republicans to the center.

Cost effective healthcare generally means long waits and government deciding what is essential. Also, a lot of countries opt for a mix of socialized and private healthcare because often the social option kinda sucks. Otherwise everybody would just go with the social option.



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