Democrats Vote To Give Trump Obscene $717 Billion Mílítary Budget

[Mr Puggsly]

Machiavellian said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Well that's the thing, in the US there is little accountability on the money being spent, where its going, etc. When republicans start entertaining the idea of putting more accountability on spending and budget cutting, it starts a propaganda war about how public services will decline in quality.

For example, look at education. We spend more than virtually any other country per student. The democrats never argue that's a problem, instead they're always arguing we simply need to spend more even with no results. Democrats also have strong opposition of private and charter schools because public schools want no alternatives/competition even if they get better results with less spending. Their concern isn't helping children, they just want a monopoly on education and more money.

I argue we don't rely enough on for for-profit solutions. They create better and more economical solutions when government fails.

 

 

I have to say this is pure opinion.  First charter schools do not outperform public schools because they have better education.  What they do is cherry pick their students so that their test scores stay high.  Public schools do not have this privilege since they accept everyone no matter their test scores, economic background or social status. The current system right now have absolutely no oversight on private schools/ Charter schools.  Because of that, you have many private and charter schools opening up all over the place as simple scams.  Private and Charter schools isn't really an answer but just another choice and right now the current education secretary is pretty much in it for the money.  There isn't anything wrong with Private or Charter schools but as with anything within the US system, if there is no real oversight into what they do, then a lot of kids will get crap education at the expense of the taxpayers.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/29/opinion/29sat2.html

Also you seem to forget that during the Obama term, his administration tried to institute a lot of accountability into the system but there was a lot of push back.  In this case republican did not want to do anything because they say this trample on States rights. As for who is for or against accountability for schools, it all depends on who is in power.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/senate-scraps-obama-regulations-on-school-accountability/2017/03/09/e9279932-04e5-11e7-b1e9-a05d3c21f7cf_story.html?utm_term=.dc427cecc493

We will see if there is a better solution then just cutting checks to private and charter schools and leaving other individual kids behind but with this administration I highly doubt it.

Well it appears where charter schools are in demand they actually use a lottery system to select kids. So I imagine that limits their ability to select the best.

I believe kids in charter schools can perform better because they don't tolerate as much crap as public so you get less distractions, they have more freedom in how they teach, and the parents care more about their kids getting a good education in general. All of these factors create a better environment that the public schools can't duplicate. But that doesn't mean everybody should be stuck with the public option.

If a child isn't making an effort or being a distraction to other kids, the charter school should remove that child. The child can still be educated in the public system. Charter schools aren't designed to cater to everyone, its just an option for parents who want something different than what the public offers.

On a side note, you're essentially implying charter schools avoid kids based on their economic background. The reality is charter schools are in demand in poor areas because that's where public schools tend to fail most.

Public schools might have more transparency which is argued, but public schools also give dumb kids diplomas. We essentially have illiterate people graduating which makes little sense in my mind.