Why don't you believe that Trump is a Russian tool?

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o_O.Q said:

RaptorChrist said:
OP, are you American? If not, where are you from, and why is Trump such a topic of debate where you live?

Anyways, Trump is a very sketchy president, and knowing that he's lied in the past makes it very hard to trust anything that he says. I'm not big into politics, so I don't know all the details, but I think it's very unlikely that there is any sort of conspiracy with Russia.

Just be careful where you get your information. This seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts. Trump has a lot of haters, and there are people who will do or say anything to bring him down. Even people who are known to be extremely credible may be willing to sacrifice that credibility for a chance to bring him down.

"Trump is a very sketchy president, and knowing that he's lied in the past"

wait stop, you've never told a lie? i didn't realise we had the reincarnation of honest abe on this forum lol

Ahh the Strawman argument. I know I have told many lies during my lifetime but also when I have been caught telling a lie, the Trust level of the person I lied to changed.  Why would this be any different for the President.  He has lied multiple times, stretched the Truth or just made up his own facts.  Why would anyone ever Trust what he says just on face value.  If Trump gives you numbers without any source, you almost have to totally dismiss them out of hand because he has shone he will make up his own numbers.  If Trump says he heard from someone you have to toss that one out since he has shone multiple times he will just make up those stories.  If Trump says he has evidence on something you can pretty much toss that one out as well because he will never produce it.  So tell us how can anyone Trust the word of someone who serially lies and in a lot of instances for no other purpose besides its what they do.