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Aeolus451 on 02 August 2018
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CosmicSex said:
Aeolus451 said:

You're assuming that UHC is the absolute best way to go at any cost. That's still up in the air. So what if Americans don't buy into it? I never said anything about the EU being evil. It is on an authoritarian kick though and it has problems of its own. The only thing the US should adopt from there is the metric system, they can keep the rest. I'm not okay with paying alot higher taxes and ruining our advancement in med for something I rarely ever use. We already have a system we like and that works.

I would like to think that if you knew that I was personally effected by this that you would at least reconsider your stance.  Cost here in the states are preventing me from getting care that I need. I have insurance and a relatively good job.  And still my out of pocket is too high. With a program like UHC, I wouldn't be in pain now. 

The vast majority of countries in the world either have free health care or universal health care.  I will be damned if I let you trick me into thinking that my suffering is 'better' when the care I need is avaliable abroad.  Your perspective is creeping me out.  You make it about what you need right now without having the ability to see the bigger picture.   If you needed Health Care and couldn't afford it, would you then have a change of heart?

But I think the tides are turning and I will prove it by making you a promise.  In 20 years, if something should happen and you need medical care, you will get it here in the US without having to worry about costs because will will not stop fighting for you and each other.  UHC will be law mark my words.  People will look around and say "you know what we can do better and our neighbors are showing us a method that we might be able to make work for us".  We will continue to drive medical advancements and you will be able to afford it because the comparison you made is just a logical fallacy and not intrinsic to some threat presented by access to care. 

I would save you without a second thought. 

I believe that the majority of healthcare is a service and sickly people are not entitled to it at the expense of everyone. No one is stopping you from making more money to buy what you want. Change plans or something. I do need some stuff done that's expensive but I don't think I'm entitled to it at no cost to me. Life saving treatments/meds/procedure are the only things I consider that people have an entitlement with at low cost.

 In my opinion, insurance companies are the main contributing factor in why healthcare is so expensive. I think the healthcare insurance system needs to be reworked to reduce the costs and change what's covered or done away with completely. Maybe replace it with a cash only/affordable financing for expensive treatments. I noticed that most of the meds/treatments not covered by insurance are priced reasonably.  I completely disagree with UHC. Just because some people are doing something doesn't make it the smart or right choice.