Koch Brothers own study says that Universal Healthcare is cheaper than current US system

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xbebop said:

Aeolus451 said:

More people talking nonsensical numbers like Cortez? 😂 It would increase the federal budget commitments by 32 trillion in it's first ten years.... What part of "by 32 trillion" don't some people understand? That's 32 trillion more in taxes to the middle class and rich.

The 2 trillion reduction in national health expenditure over ten years is wrong because it's based on Bernie's assumption that we can lower all payment rates to medicare payment rates. Blahous pointed out that can't be achieved. It would actually increase the NHE by 6 trillion. Other studies have similar numbers.

Yeah, and that's absolutely ridiculous. With any Universal Healthcare system, price controls would also come into play. As such, the costs would go down significantly.

Even so, does it matter if the cost for something is paid through taxes or directly from your pocketbook? It still ends up being paid. And, if other countries' experiences are to be believed, you'd end up paying less than half of what you are now.

With Bernie level of price controls, the innovation and development of meds, tech and medical procedures would stagnate. The US literally pays it forward for everyone in terms of innovation in healthcare. Some of the higher expenses is from higher consumption of healthcare and expensive new medical treatments. The US would never allow price controls for many reasons. Even most dems don't support this because they looked at the cost analysis and realized what it would cost.

Taxes would have to go up expeditiously to pay for the same healthcare at a higher price overall. It would go up by 6 trillion in costs.