Israel: the new face of apartheid - Discuss

[Eagle367]

NightlyPoe said:

Eagle367 said:

Let me Remind you that this is historically Palestine's home. There are and were alwayawe're always palestinian Jews as Palestinian Christians and Palestinian Jews. Israel was formed by and for European Jews. Foreigners to the land. Palestine is defending it's home while Israel is trying to make one without the existence of Palestine. If you ignore the illegal settlements you are just blind. Sorry but the world rarely agrees on anything yet it agrees that Israel is the aggressor. The UN is not perfect but this is more than 99% unanimous. Whether you agree or not matters not. Regardless I don't care if Israel or Palestine survive as long as there is no war or oppression from either side 

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Jumpin said:

You're hypocritical considering you're arguing that the non-Jewish Palestinians shouldn't be allowed to defend their homes from the invaders.
Most of the Jewish people in Israel are foreigners who had land given to them by a militant colonial power simply based on their religion. All of the Palestinians are native to the region, having roots in the land that span back to times when they were the original Jewish population, and even before that; thousands of years. Now 5.2 million of them are without homes because of this Israeli Crusader Kingdom.

Basically, if you are a Jewish Palestinian, then they allow you to stay, but if you are not Jewish, they kick you out of your home, forcing you into a life of poverty and starvation.

Thank you for proving my point both of you.  The very existence of Israel is enough provocation to incite violence.  I reject that notion that this is acceptable behavior.  Like it or not, Israel is a nation.  Again, if the Palestinians want a happy life, all they must do is stop trying to kill Jews.  It's all on them not whatever nonsense (settlements, sheesh, so petty it's laughable) is the trumped up charge of the week.  Stop coddling a people so steeped in hatred that they would live for generations in misery rather than living in peace.

The Israelis will be happy to stop the conflict once it's safe to do so.  They don't have a partner though, so whatever.  Let the world condemn, it just proves how messed up the world truly is.

What logic don't you get? Israel is the aggressor. Illegal settlements aren't laughable they are the truth of Israel. Israel won't be happy and doesn't want peace. They are all too happy to have Hamas so they can spew propaganda and claim hamas while killing innocents. Israel wants all of what Was Palestine. They don't care whether palestinians are Christian or Muslim, child or adult, innocent or combatant, they will kill them and take their land. The land that was Palestine and now illegally occupied is not petty. What if your neighbour takes control of half your house illegally. Won't you be mad and outraged. What I'm saying and what jumping is saying and what you are hearing are completly different things. You think Israel is a just this pure innocent nation that is defending itself but it's a monster where IDF enjoys killing and bullying innocents and children. The last thing Israel wants is peace with Palestine. It doesn't want Palestine to exist at all