| DonFerrari said: MS doesn't disclose Gold subs anymore, they talk about the whole number of active subs. So where are you getting their gold? From the numbers we have the most you can be accertain is that PS+ subs is about equal total XBL (Gold+Silver+PC users+Minecraft on Switch). Also you claimed that selling HW doesn't secure subs. I provided you that yes it doesn't secure, but when MP was under the PS+ then we have had at least 1PSN account per PS4 sold and almost 1 PSN+ account for each 2 PS4 sold from release of PS4 until now. So there is a very strong relation between selling the HW and getting subs. Sure Destructoid may be assumptions, so is yours. MS never disclosed the profit of Xbox alone, you claim they have made a lot of profit, where is your source? Blizzard may do whatever they want, we aren't discussing them. You are claiming X360 made a lot of money, that X1 is making a lot of money, but you have no source. You say that subs is more important than HW and that selling HW doesn't bring money or subs (got disproven) but can't provide any evidence. |
Don you are not understanding what is being said. Let me ask you afew questions and please answer them so i get a better understanding on your point.
1) Gold has been around for more than a decade, so where does all the Sub money go from all those Paid Gold members?
2) Why doesnt Blizzard announce how much they earn from there Subs?
3) Why is it okay for Blizzard not to disclose Sub profits but for MS they have to?
4) How was the 360 more profitable than the PS3 considering it sold less HW units?
5) Do you think Xbox is better off selling 100m Units and only having 10m Subs or them selling 50m Units and having 30m Subs?
I mean its not rocket science to work out the fortune Xbox is making behind the scenes
Forbes back in 2010, estimated Live was generating $1.25 billion annually, thats a good lump sum of cash yearly if you ask me.
Just because a company doesnt announce it, doesnt mean it doesnt exist. Like most big money making brands they dont announce there Sub profits. Both Blizzard one of the wealthiest gaming companies in the world and MS one of the wealthiest corporations in the world choose to hide these figures.
Yes 360 and PS3 lost money on the HW, but 360 managed to make that back in other ways hence my entire point of HW isnt as important as you make it out to be. Again more HW sold does help but gaining a higher percentage from subs from current owners is just as important.
MS is not a company to keep a brand around for many years that is leaking billions. There is a reason why they keep Xbox around and i think its pretty obvious.
Last edited by Azzanation - on 24 July 2018
