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massimus said:

“There you go again doing what you always do, deflect.”

LOL! I’m not the king of the deflection, that’s you. I’m the king of dismissal, remember? Deflection would be me discussing the substance of your post with your lawyer from Scotland while you focus on your hatred of Trump (or lack thereof).

“Never said the president office is the only political office  I vote for but please continue to build that nice straw defense.”

I didn’t say it was only thing you vote for, I just said it seems like it’s the only thing you care about. I don’t need a straw defense for your feelings about Trump. It’s just an observation dude, if I’m wrong I’m wrong. I don’t know you, I just know what you type and what you focus on.

 

“SIf you want we can share voting records and I can show you I vote all the d I'll win to my city mayor if that helps you sleep at night.”

I just said I don’t know what you stand for. I don’t really care who or what you vote for I’m just explaining why I think you “dislike him very strongly” because that’s the only thing you responded to. You hating him or not has no affect on me. 

 

“Are we not in a thread talking about the President so I keep it on point.  If you want to discuss other political positions feel free to open another thread.”

 

We have discussed many political positions in our many discussions and you were always brought back to destroying Trump. We have talked about everything from the economy to healthcare and you have never shown any real “republican” position. Neither does the Republican Party though and I guess that makes sense if you like Kasich. If the only reason you are so critical is because you were staying on topic then I read it wrong. You don’t hate trump because he is an idiot that has an affect on your life. I apologize again. 

 

“So your entertainment is an idiot making policies that effect your life.  I guess everyone has their kicks.”

 

I don’t think he’s an idiot and I like the policies for the most part. He says some dumb shit but most of the time it’s on purpose. My entertainment is how angry he makes people on purpose. Especially the media. He’s not a traditional president, sure. Definitely not a traditional republican that rolls over and takes the leftist ass chewing like Bush did. He fights back and yes it’s entertaining. 

 

“I also find it funny thelengths  people will go through to support Trump when he make idiotic mistakes.  I am having a decent chuckle in this thread.”

 

I find it funny the lengths people will go to try to destroy him and his family. Most of your complaints are something stupid he said like he doesn’t know the difference between Great Britain and the UK or some other stupid word fumble. I just said your impeachment claim is ridiculous. 

 

“Interesting enough I never thought Trump was compromised by Russia.  I only thought of him as another con man who found himself in position of power.  After that display on Monday, I started to believe maybe there is some meat there.”

 

I still don’t. I think that’s retarded lol. 

Would it make you happy if I stated that there are a few things I agree that Trump stands for.  I actually have no problem with making relations better with Russia.  I have not problems with strengthening the border.  I have not problem and support better trade relationships with out partners.  I am in support of tougher stance against China.  All of these things are great for a President to tackle and things that he should do.  The biggest problem I have is when you put an idiot in charge of tackling those problems the opposite result happens.

My point is that Trump has no clue what he is doing.  He does not prepare when he meets world leaders.  He does not take the time to understand the actual issues and he doesn't listen to anyone but people who just say yes to his every whim.  As I have stated many times, he is sloppy in pretty much everything he does and his administration just does what he wants but no one takes the time to plan anything right.  You see this every time he speaks to world leaders as he shows his ignorance each and every step.  You have quotes from him talking about Brexit but then again he sounds so ignorant that its funny he would even suggest giving advice on how to handle it.  His Muslin ban failed and he had to go back and re do it because he did not understand now to get something simple done.  Healthcare, nothing.  Basically punted to congress after saying he was the only one who could fix it.  That he had a plan then in his most revealing tweet we get this, "Nobody knew Healthcare could be so complicated".  The only person who did not know was the same person who said he was the only person to fix it.

My problem with Trump is not the policies he stand for it's how he executes them.  When you have an idiot tackling complex issues, they can F it up so bad that any real support for policies or issues will have unreasonable conflict because people can only focus on how bad that person screwed it up.  Immigration is a classic example.  The whole taking the children probably could have worked if done with a more deft hand but instead it was rushed without thought.  There was no plan to get the children back to their parents and no way for them to keep in touch or anything.  It was bungled beyond belief and made us look like complete fools.  The whole wall concept and making Mexico pay for it. Was great campaign slogan but anyone with any sense knew this wasn't going to happen and if the wall did get funded it was going to be our dollars doing it.  

The main problem with Trump is that he only seems to care about his base but is that what a president suppose to be.  Only caring about your base and forgetting all the people who did not vote for you leaves a big gap and start to make the divide we see today in America.  

Needless to say, I can give multiple more incidents where at every turn Trump turned something that could be good into a bungled mess.  His whole administration is filled with people he has to fire or quite because who wants to be a part of a disorganized group of bungling idiots.  Either way, we will see how many more bungled cases continue to show up and how many times you will have to defend every screw up.