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Machiavellian on 19 July 2018
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massimus said:
Machiavellian said:

That was not bad it was embarrassing.  For someone who is being investigated for making deals with another foreign nation to gain the presidency, how can that press conference look good in any way.  So yes, it appeared that he went into a private meeting with another foreign leader we have accused of attacking the US and came out of it prasing that leader and throwing all of our intelligence agency under the bus.  People are complimenting Putin for a master class in political maneuvering because of the outcome of that whole event broadcast around the world for everyone to see.  He pretty much used Trump as a puppet, made Trump look foolish and weak on the world stage after all the bluster he did at NATO and laughed at the press because its always funny when you have their own president by the balls and there is nothing you can do about it.  Putin doesn't have to say anything when you have Trump saying it all.  That is the master puppeteer.  To even come on the board and try to defend that performance and make it anything less that the absolute Fup shows that anything Trump does you are quick to dismiss.

The worst part was that complete strained walkback on Tuesday which was even more embarrassing.  It's as if Trump's people think the general public is stupid.  As if one word was the only thing people had an issue with in that cringe worthy press conference.  Next you have the tweets afterward where he pretty much walks back on his walk back.  Its the classic Trump where he loves to throw out confusing messages and let people like you choose how to view it and defend what he has done.  Trump supporters become the Trump listeners for the world as you interpret the nonsense he throws out and try to make it appear everyone else just do not understand.  

LOL Putin didn’t do shit, he’s an asshole. Wow such class. You hate Trump so much you would hype that midget dictator? No putin laughed because the questions were MORONIC lmao. Master puppeteer, what a joke. I didn’t defend the performance, check what I said a few pages ago...... I just asked why people think a shitty press conference is an impeachable offense and why people are hyping up the asshole who didn’t do anything lol.

 

Most of them think we are stupid. This press conference is the last thing I would use as proof of that. They think we are as ignorant as they are, most people in DC. Good he should walk them back. I didn’t defend what he did dummy. He is what I wrote a few pages ago.

 

massimus said: 
After watching it, Trump did come off as a bitch. That was disappointing. I highly doubt it’s because of dirt or some other conspiracy bullshit but there is no excuse. A few of the high ranking people in these agencies are sleaze but there is nothing wrong with the rank and file. The FBI as an institution is solid for the most part. I don’t care how bad these higher scumbags are and how stupid the press questions are, don’t side with Putin over your own house. Domestic problems are domestic.

Im just asking how this “embarrassing” conference is relevant in any way to impeachment. People act like this is finally it, we finally got him! No lol.... and to hype up that asshole putin just because you hate trump lol, it’s pathetic. Master class lmao! He isn’t shit, he didn’t do shit. It’s laughable.

So the reason why impeachment is being presented should be obvious.  Trump is the president of the US and he was given just like any President all the information we have on Russia attack on the 2016 elections.  There is no dispute of any of this information from any of the agencies, white house staff, Congress, you name it.  It's the whole reason why he had to walk back his statement because it's not something under discussion or up in the air any more.  During that Press conference, Trump threw that info away and publically put blame to the US for Russia attack.  So yes, people in all corners of the government who are privy to that information is calling what Trump did treasonous and right up there with impeachable act.  Knowing Trump character, you know he absolutely hates have to admit he is ever wrong.  For him to retract all that crap he said on Monday was a complete blunder and he knew it because there isn't any dispute about the evidence we have that Putin himself order the interference. 

Now, lets address this continued projection you have that people who believe Trump is an idiot must hate him.  I continue to laugh at that line you throw out all the time.  I continue to wonder why I must hate Trump to believe he is a complete idiot.  

As for Putin, yes, Master class puppeteer he must be.  When you have the President of another nation with full evidence of your crime against them and you have him go on national TV and lie for you and in the same process basically throw his government and his people under the bus to make you look good, if that isn't master class I do not know what is.  You can laugh all you want but you can also be sure Putin is right there with you as he embarrased Trump in front of everyone and now he has to pick up the pieces.  I do not know, you either call Trump a complete idiot or you give props to Putin for making Trump look like a complete idiot.  You cannot have it both ways.