Aeolus451 said:
Because they weren't successful by any metric and we do the same thing to other countries even to allies, it's actually not a big deal. We adjust our security measures to close up holes and arrest some operatives then move on. It's not like we're gonna go to war with Russia or put him on trial. He's perfect in why Trump supporters voted for him which is not because he's the perfect conventional politician or that he seems like a good moral example to everyone. Libs don't get it. They bitch that he doesn't act like a politician but that's one of the reasons why people voted for him. Trump likes a mix of tough talk and flattery in negotiations and getting people to do what he wants. What matters is his actions and policies. |
If a bank robber was unsuccessful in robbing a bank, do the law care or not. If you helped someone to rob a bank in any way but the robbers botched the job does the law care or not. The intent to do the job and the will to follow through is enough for any government to go after the other when being attack. Just because something failed does not resolve the act. I am not even sure why you are trying to make that case it does not hold water.
Yes, every nation does something behind the scenes as far as espionage. It's the ones that get caught that have to pay the price. Not knowing why they are doing what they are doing and just being dismissive of it since it was a candidate you support does not change the fact that it was done nor does it mean we as a nation should just accept it because "Everybody does it". That line of thinking has never held water on any topic and it will not hold water on this one either. It's what I would expect my 10 year old son to tell me if caught smoking pot.
I love the part where everyone who did not vote for Trump has to be a lib. Everyone who did not vote for Trump just do not get it. The reason people bitch that he doesn't act like a politician because he took on a job where you need to be a politician. Everyone he meets, everyone he interacts with from Congress to his own people to other governments are politicians. You hired someone who has to do a job where he has no clue how to operate and then you wonder why he isn't successful. The same people he berates today is the same people he need to negotiate with tomorrow. Just like with the Tariffs, his administration believe other nations would not reciprocate because they fear the US or some other stupid ideal in their head. They continue to run to one blunder to another and you seem to cheer him on as if this makes a successful president.
So tell me how has Trump tough talks made any deal actually happen. How has he changed congress to do anything that they did not approve of. Did he get that healthcare he promised. Where is the wall. Did Mexico sign that check yet. Has Republican moved on any of the issues they thought was stupid. How is NAFTA coming along. What about that naive notion that other nations would not reciprocate on the tariffs. How is kissing NK ass bringing those Nukes to the table. Lol, Tough talk means nothing and kissing ass is still kissing ass. Trump still has not figured it out what moves politicians because he still believe he is a reality TV star.
Now again we are at another blunder, where he made you all look stupid for first supporting the dumb remark he made then walking it back after you built your defense of it. Now you do not know what to support or defend with the next blunder I am sure is coming soon. You probably will not have to worry about this one in the news long because true to form, Trump has a pocket full of them ready to move the needle to something else.
Last edited by Machiavellian - on 18 July 2018
