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Hiku said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I'm assuming you didn't watch the video.

1. The person being right winger is conjecture. They're also pushing the narrative racist incidents are just right wing related.

2. They didn't mention the culprit was black because it didn't fit the narrative. Trump only had like 2% of black female votes. The man in the video even says, "they hate people that don't look like them." I'm wondering if he even knew it was a black person.

3. Racism existed before Trump. Every incident shouldn't be attributed to Trump unless you have an agenda like TYT.

And I'm assuming you didn't take 5 seconds to check if they updated the story with additional relevant information when it was made public.

They didn't forego mentioning that she was black because "it didn't fit the narrative." If that were the case they would not post an update video about her identity the very next day. Which they did.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtIPvFRyKz0

In all likelihood, her name and ethnicity was not made public, or was not available to them, at the time of the first recording. But they did follow up with a relevant update, which is more than I can commonly say for certain other "news media" for stories such as these. And I have examples if you're curious.

For all the criticism you're quick to dish out, you need to take your own advice to a reasonable extent. And I think it's very reasonable to consider and look for an update to the story before going on a conspiracy theory rant.
Both of these videos were posted 3 days before you made your comment. You have no excuse to not even mention this as a possibility in your post when you ironically complain about painting a narrative.
If that's as far as your thought process goes in cases like these, then you're quite likely to paint a false narrative yourself.

Secondly, they're not pushing a narrative that "racist incidents are just right wing related".
Are they are implying that racists incidents like these are more likely perpetrated by right wingers? Sure. And that's not exactly hard to believe. Especially when they're told things like "they're sending their rapists and drug dealers, and some... I assume... are good people."
Just like it's not hard to believe that racist acts against white Trump supporters are more commonly perpetrated by left wingers.

Racism existed before Trump. And every incident like this shouldn't be attributed to him is about the only point you made that I agree with.
But if you wait for a very specific confession from a perpetrator, you'll likely end up never talking about the consequences of things like a president goading his supporters into being physically violent with those who don't share their views. (I'm referring to how Trump at a rally told the crowd to literally punch protesters who would get ready to throw a tomato at him, and that he would pay for their legal fees.) Among other things such as "You second amendment people may be able to do something about it".

So if they're going to talk about the potential consequences of these actions, or empowerment, as long as you include, or at least follow up on the story with relevant facts, then go ahead. I have her name, and I can find out more about her as the police investigation about her motives conclude.

The update video exactly proves my point. All their wacky conjecture went out the window primarily because it was a black woman. No more talk about right wingers and fascism. It was never a debate on whether or not blacks could be racist, the gravity of this incident is also lower. But they still try to treat it as a new problem in the country at the moment, but historically its nothing new. Its part of them creating a narrative this is a unique problem due to our current president.

TYT totally made the assumption this incident was right wing related. Honestly, they're bummed its not. Because the woman is black the story is now less interesting to the media, no political points to exploit this for. The Trump comments on Mexican immigrants is unrelated. It was bad hyperbole but an undeniable a problem that does exist, even the left admits it.

TYT has a large audience and clearly attempts to be the moral high ground, so it would be nice if they had a focus on the facts. I feel like the follow up was admission the previous video was bullshit. Their enthusiasm about the story is also lowered because they can't attach it to white supremacy or anything like that.

Last edited by Mr Puggsly - on 16 July 2018

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