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HylianSwordsman said:
I think the US just has better reporting. You're kidding yourself if you think we're even in the top 10 worst places for women. We're definitely at or near the bottom of the western world, but Latin America, Middle East, Africa, and much of Asia is worse.

Supreme court is a completely broken institution, and if we don't collapse into fascism, it will be reformed one way or another soon enough.

Yep, conservative Christians will define when a life begins based on their theology, forcing their theology on the rest of us. It only just became official. If you don't like that, you should have voted. Disliking the system or your choices doesn't let you escape from blame when you cede what little control you do have under the system to the people that still use it.

We aren't the leader of the free world. Haven't been for a while now. It will take a lot of change on our part to reclaim that title. It's not too late to try though.

Lady Liberty will be a footnote in the history books, if that, if we don't reclaim our place as leader of the free world, so if you find that inspiring, then don't give up.

Yeah I haven't been following that GRA thing, but it sounds like just the sort of tone deaf, ill-considered, identity politics token gesture that neoliberals would try to pull so they can claim they're contributing to equality and progress without thinking about the ramifications.

The EPA is a joke now. It just seems wrong that it gets abused like this. Seriously, if they refuse to protect the environment, and thus refuse the agency's mission, why not just abolish it? That would be the honest thing to do. Republicans would support it. But they don't, because it at least acts as a vehicle to plunder public money from the American people for the corrupt jerks that get appointed there. And apparently conservatives are fine with public money being stolen by corrupt people so long as it makes "liberals" mad. They would seriously rather have a corrupt EPA than abolish it because it upsets people they don't like. It genuinely seems like conservatives view the EPA as an "own the libs" government program that they're happy to fund because who cares about small government when you can use the government to troll people?

I think we largely agree here (and there aren't a lot of replies so far to which I did, so I'm focusing on this one where I feel there is hope ), but to address the two areas where we're divided:

When you suggest that sexual violence and harassment are but more often reported here in the U.S., I think it's entirely possible that that's the case (especially in the wake of the Me Too movement). However, I think it's equally possible that people (men in particular) are simply underestimating the severity of the problem that we have in this country based on certain elitist prejudices that First World people often have, like the assumption that because the United States is a more prosperous and white country than most, that we are therefore more civilized and peaceable toward one-another than those savages of color over in the Third World despite a consider amount of evidence that that just may not be the case in the area of sexual violence and harassment toward women. It honestly doesn't really feel like sexual violence and harassment are things that we take very seriously to me. I mean I think the Me Too movement began in this country and not somewhere else for a reason. I feel that I provided a reasonable amount of substantiation for my opinion in the OP.

The only other thing we appear to have a difference on was this remark on the composition of the Supreme Court and its implications: "If you don't like that, you should have voted." I did vote. For Hillary Clinton. So how am I to blame here? I mean why would you just assume that I didn't vote?

Anyway, it looks like we agree on the rest. I particularly appreciated it when you said to not give up because that hit home. Honestly, giving up is what I really feel like doing right now. So just wanted to single that out to say thank you.

Last edited by Jaicee - on 08 July 2018