Supreme Court Upholds Trump's Travel Ban on Mostly Muslim Countries

[Mr Puggsly]

the-pi-guy said:

Aeolus451 said:

No, it's not.That's what political lefties actually say the want.

There are at least tens of millions of lefties, you can find literally any political position you want.  

Open borders are a small government position.  

Aeolus451 said:

That's not including expenses from the paris accord if we stayed in.

Didn't cost anything.  Countries decided for themselves what they wanted to do.  

The only thing that the Paris Accord required was to make goals.  That's it.  No spending requirements, no punishments for not making those goals.  You can read it yourself.  

Aeolus451 said:

What right leaning politicians, media or celebrities are calling for way way worse than what Maxine Waters is pushing for? I didn't realize that the left consider debates acts of violence.

How about when Trump said "to knock the crap out of him."

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/128896/beat-protester-trumps-rally-hell-cover-legal-fees

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2018/jun/26/have-us-rep-maxine-waters-and-president-donald-tru/

Mr Puggsly said:

Taking care and dealing with illegal immigrants, also incredibly costly. In comparison the wall looks like a drop in the bucket. Even the low estimate are significantly more than that wall.

 

There are all kinds of costs.  Including stealing land from Americans in order to build the wall.  

Mr Puggsly said:

Democrats keep pushing for expenses and expect all of us to cover it. People have the illusion it will just be felt by the rich and that's not reality. Republicans entertain the idea of cutting the budget, but the democrats treat any potential cut as the end of the world. Frankly, we couldn't get taxed enough to cover how out of control spending has gotten. The $20+ trillion debt didn't happen from tax cuts, its the increased spending. The only options are reduce spending OR slow spending so the economy can catch up.

Tax cuts and increased spending are two sides of the same problem.  It's from both.  

Our current tax rate is far below what it was a few decades ago.  

Mr Puggsly said:

Republicans/right leaning people getting chastised in public primarily for having opposing views has become common place. Its also become common for right leaning speakers to have their events shut down due to the intolerant left. Even personally I've had left leaning friends/acquaintances became hostile simply because my views differ.

 

Democrats are right leaning. 

Republicans are practically off the right side of the map.  

You're saying that as if Democrats don't get chastised.  They get called baby killers, libtards, and much more.

I'm not saying Democrats are better.  I'm just annoyed how conservatives act like they are good and holy, while Liberals are all monsters.  

Mr Puggsly said: 

Its not just about refusing service, dems are using it at as means of grandstanding. It accomplished nothing, the manager had to step down and it created sympathy for people on the right.  For comparison sake, the baker who refused to provide a custom cake for a gay couple didn't refuse service entirely. They were allowed to buy other things, just not a custom gay wedding cake. That baker is considered a bigot but in comparison was actually classy.

I've heard a lot of different stories about it.  Supposedly, one of the trials was on the side of the buyers on the basis that they weren't allowed to get any kind of cake.  

Open borders falls under not protecting citizens. Which should be a primary focus. Its a left wing issue because its some sort of social justice. Some perceive it as pandering to certain groups.

The general consensus is Obama's plan would require increased spending, its just a debate on how much. I get the impression the US either had to stick with that deal Obama proposed or just leave. Otherwise Trump could just make a new proposal, offer very little or virtually nothing like other countries, and get less media flack.

Maxine Waters requested people to harass republicans, now she's experiencing it herself. My advice is just try to be civil because wackos are on both sides.

I'm aware some land would fall under eminent domain. Sucks, but this is a security issue. It wouldn't be the worst use of this law.

For some reason wanting free stuff is more popular than higher taxes. But increased spending in general is more popular among the left.

The democratic party in particular is not right leaning, their party is getting highjack by socialists, SJWs, and often take umbrage with the constitution. People who vote democrat might have right wing views, but the party is becoming strongly against them.

You're taking my comment out of context. I'm saying democrats don't get chastised for increased spending even though high taxes is not popular.

If a baker didn't want to serve someone because his gaydar went off, that would obviously be wrong. That would be difficult to defend even if you aren't a fan of gay marriage.