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Aeolus451 on 28 June 2018
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the-pi-guy said:
Aeolus451 said:

The left wants open borders as in allowing unmitigated immigration and to dissolve national borders.

Oh give me a break.  This is the same kind of logic that leftists use when they compare Trump to Hitler.  

It's just fear and propaganda.  

Aeolus451 said:

Not that expensive relative to what it would accomplish. Walls work. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumps-border-wall-is-standard-practice-in-other-parts-of-the-world It would cut down illegal immigration simply by making it much more difficult to bring your family across.

Different circumstances.  

About half of all illegal immigrants wouldn't be stopped by a wall. 

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/donald-trump-2016-wall-wont-work-214167

I'm sure you don't care about these kinds of things, so of course you think it would easily be worth it:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trumps-wall-could-cause-serious-environmental-damage/

I don't.

Aeolus451 said:

The dramatic growth of the deficit is the result of Obama's spending. No amount of taxing higher would fix it. It's gonna require cuts to social programs and letting businesses/people make money to whittle away at it. I think Trump should legalize pot but only licensed sellers/growers can sell it. 

Yes, Obama raised the debt the most.  

https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296

Obama: $8 trillion, due to tax cuts, poor economy, a stimulus package and plenty of other things.  

Bush: $6 trillion

Trump:

FY 2019 - $1.225 trillion.

FY 2018 - $1.233 trillion.

Obama:

FY 2017 - $672 billion.

FY 2016 - $1.423 trillion.

FY 2015 - $327 billion.

FY 2014 - $1.086 trillion.

FY 2013 - $672 billion.

FY 2012 - $1.276 trillion.

FY 2011 - $1.229 trillion.

FY 2010 - $1.652 trillion.

FY 2009 - $253 billion.

Bush:

FY 2009 - $1.632 trillion. This was Bush's deficit without the impact of the Economic Stimulus Act. FY 2008 - $1.017 trillion.

FY 2007 - $501 billion.

FY 2006 - $574 billion.

FY 2005 - $554 billion.

FY 2004 - $596 billion.

FY 2003 - $555 billion.

FY 2002 - $421 billion.

Aeolus451 said:

Actually, dems like Maxine Waters is calling for dems to do worse.

Sure, and there's conservatives that are calling for way way worse. 

No, it's not.That's what political lefties actually say the want.

That's not including expenses from the paris accord if we stayed in.

What right leaning politicians, media or celebrities are calling for way way worse than what Maxine Waters is pushing for? I didn't realize that the left consider debates acts of violence.