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VAMatt on 22 June 2018
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Nem said:
VAMatt said:

What win do you see?  I see only violation of property rights, and basic government overreach.  

 

Strange. I see consumer protection. Governments have to do that because companies don't really care about the human aspect when making money. It didn't start with lootboxes.

People are responsible for themselves.  If you don't like loot boxes so much, don't play those games.  Or, do like I do (I don't like loot boxes), and just don't buy the boxes.

Replicant said:
VAMatt said:

What win do you see?  I see only violation of property rights, and basic government overreach.  

Yeah, the governments and EU really are disgusting trying to avoid companies profiting off of making young people into gambling addicts.  -_-

That isn't what they're doing.  They're stopping businesses and *consumers* from doing what they want to do.  They're playing nanny.  

Immersiveunreality said:
VAMatt said:

If you feel that way about those games, I encourage you not to purchase, or otherwise support them.  If someone else does enjoy those games, why should the law tell them that they're not allowed to enjoy them anymore?  

Because its firstly against the law to put gambling in childrens games and secondly morally wrong to expose them to moneyspending addictions at such a young age.

It ruins games so i don't really get why you are advocating for it and also its not like the genres that use the gambling are just going to dissapear, no they stay but without the gambling and with more fair play for that 60 bucks you payed.

It is certainly not morally wrong to allow people to do things that they want to do.  As for children gambling.... they'd have to be using their parents' credit cards.  So, to the extent that this is happening, its a parenting fail.  Even if they're buying loot boxes with gift cards they got with cash at Walmart, it would be very difficult for a little kid to do that without parental consent.  So, again, parenting fail.  That's not on the publisher.  

I don't see it ruining games.  When I play games that include "gambling" elements, or even non-gambling microtransactions, I just ignore those things.  I've been playing shooters for a decade or so (since whenever they first appeared) that offered tons of in-game purchase options.  I've never spent even a single cent.  I still enjoyed the games.  And, people that wanted to buy stuff in-game.... guess what?  They enjoyed the games too!  Why would you cheer for government telling people they can't enjoy gaming the way they want to?