Mar1217 said:
Knowing evil/monopolistic compagny tendancies, yup. |
Yea, constantly we see the evils of Monopolies. SO much bad stuff happens to us consumers when something gets too big or powerful, yet constantly we are cheering them on to become monopolies. Look at Sony and Disney right now. You have people wanting there to only be one console and Sony to rule the gaming world and you have people wanting Dinsey to buy every franchise imaginable.
Idiots.
| mushroomboy5 said: well...we’re not exactly living in a world where there’s a shortage of block buster nerd franchises (which is probably part of the problem)... I liked solo and thought the fans ironically picked the wrong movie to boycott (although I’m sure that only played a small part in the films demise as most people I know didn’t even seem to know it even existed amongst all the other block busters out recently) ....having said that I could take it or leave it. Ive grown up with Star Wars saw the originals at the cinema (yeah I’m that old) and feel like I’ve experience the best the series had to offer when it was actually relevant. This story (of Disney cutting back on sw movies) btw isn’t concrete fact by any means and I’m not entirely convinced they’re abandoning their plans over one movie though I’m sure they have to make it appear that they’re changing their strategy. They’ll probably still make the spin offs but ditch the ‘Star Wars story’ branding or something stupid like that lol |
I'm kind of excited for the DCEU at the moment future. It seems we got the boycott right for Justice League. That movie tanked in box office and on home media sales. Say what you want about any of the prior movies, you can't argue that DC fan spoke when every DCEU movie outsold freaking Justice League in theaters and on home media. And that was fans. The movie did better rotten tomatoe than some of the others, so critics like it some. But it's the fans not going to the movie 100 times (saw some article about someone going to infinity war 100 times) and not telling everyone they see to go to the movie. Not dragging others to the movie, ect.
Not to mention all the talk even to this day about a possible Snyder cut. Pretty sure there is more article about the Snyder cut than the actual movie.
And fans are excited about the new Aquaman, Shazaam and Wonder Woman movie, because it appears that the excecs have kept their hands off of those projects.
| Stefan.De.Machtige said: Since Luke is dead, there is nothing to care about anymore so i was out at that point. Rian Johnson tanked any potential the new trilogy had so i'm done. Star Wars is dead. Long live the force. |
Yea killing Luke was a big mistake, cause then it's like a copy of the first trilogy where they kill Obi-Wan and make him a ghost mentor.
But beyond that, they ruined his character before his death. Some argue his last act was the Luke we know again, but no true fan believes that Luke would do what he did by hiding the last 10 years.
Soundwave said:
"Lore depth" is garbage nerds argue about on the internet. Which characters in Star Wars actually have a PERSONALITY that can carry an entire 2 hour film? You don't have to be a nerd to "get" Tony Stark or Peter Parker or even Thor or Starlord or Deadpool or get T'Challa's relationship with his late father and kid sister. That stuff is all very universal. They are funny, flawed, have clear character arcs they have to go through, and they are immediately human, Boba fucking Fett is not. Obi Wan is an asexual hermit monk ... this stuff Star Wars fans are oblivious to, they think a great character is having a lightsaber or a cool helmet. Marvel has always excelled even compared to DC at having relatable characters, that's always been their calling card. It's not a coincidence that the 4 Star Wars films that are universally loved pretty much all have Harrison Ford ... he's the only character/actor in the films that actually feels like a real person. Remove him and the franchise loses its beating heart and lightsabers become the second most interesting thing left in the films. Marvel can also cross genres, Star Wars really cannot either. You can't have yearly Star Wars films without fatigue ditto for Jurassic Park or Tolkien or Fast & Furious or really most franchises. You need at least a 18 month gap, more ideally 24 months, even more ideal 3 full years. Marvel is a rare exception, not the rule, people don't want yearly instalments of anything unless there is a strong logical reason for there to be a new movie every year (ie: Harry Potter being structured as a story from day 1 that follows Harry through successive school years). Otherwise people just eventually say "you know what, they're clearly just milking this now, I've had my fill of dinosaurs or lightsabers or hobbits so I'm going to skip this next one". |
You do realize the reason that Marvel has a better chance of succeeding over properties like Star Wars/Trek, DC and other huge properties is because for the most part their entire cast is C list heroes.
You make a film with like Superman or Luke Skywalker, you have an insane huge population that has their preconceived notion of how the movie should be, how the character should act, ect. You deviate at all from that, or don't make their perfect vision, they will toss you nail you to the stake.
Most characters in Marvel are more of acquaintances to them, or unknown. Thus their entire knowledge of said character is from the movies. You can't ruin a character of theirs if they don't know them. Marvel's big guns like Spiderman, does run into that problem though.
There was a Goldberg's episode that dealt with them going to the new batman movies that came out with Keaton. The kid loved it. The grandpa hated it, cause it was not his batman. (West) Marvel as I said, beyond X-Men and Spiderman is new to TV/Movies. They don't have to worry about 95% of the populations opinions on their characters. They have a clean slate to make a character however they want.
