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DélioPT on 21 June 2018
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zorg1000 said:
DélioPT said:

 

Well that was a bunch of nonsense, how does 90% of what you just said pertain to anything we were talking about?

Seriously, talking about how Switch sales affect PS4/XBO is about as irrelevant to the discussion as it gets.

Miyamotoo wasn't just talking about the E3 presentation, so my comments went off topic, too.

He was saying that there's nothing wrong with the current strategy. I said there was a problem: the focus on the short term.
Will the Switch outsell the XB1? Yes. But if things don't change it might be a victory in the short term. Why? Because Nintendo isn't stealing customers.

It wasn't me who started the off topic comments, btw.

On topic: the way people perceive you, will obviously influence sales - one way or another. If Nintendo doesn't cause a bigger impact, then it won't get the result of such impact.

 

Kai_Mao said:
DélioPT said:

Yes, Switch is still selling great and the momentum is still there.
That kind of thinking shows that you are deliberately focusing on the short term and you are ignoring the fact that the most "popular" console still can't out do PS4, with the exception of Japan.

Instead of just focusing on the here and now, you should focus your attention on a little but very important detail: Switch's huge success last year hasn't made a dent on MS and Sony.
What does tell you?

Nintendo says a lot things.
Do you really expect Nintendo to come out and say that we have seen everything for 2018?
This E3 they changed their "games coming out soon (6 months)" to "6-9 months", which end in Spring. Expect, at most, 3 new games - with the strong possibility of more ports.

Let's assume that at the end of the year, Nintendo has showed 50 games during their presentations in 2018.
MS's message for the year was: 50 games; Nintendo's message was: games here and there with a focus on Smash.

Which one do you think will resonate more with gamers?
If you look at the sales numbers for last year, you'll see that Nintendo didn't steal customers from MS or Sony despite a huge success; this year, MS is having it's best year while Sony will have a decline (?). 
Again, it's almost as if Switch wasn't in the market.

"We have 50 games, too" could do a lot more to really damage MS and Sony, than their strategy will.

I don't think Nintendo has to necessarily steal anyone of the fanbases. Players can still play their PS4s and Xbones while getting Switch. It's unique enough that its not just another high powered box. It's a console you can play on the go seamlessly for $300. No need to get a PSTV or PS Vita just to get remote play from PS4 (which is a lot of money combined compared to just getting a Switch). Plus, Nintendo can build upon new audiences. Gaming is evolving and so why not the audience?

The problem with not stealing customers isn't visible now, but it will in the next generation.
If Switch managed to steal costumers that could mean that when next gen comes, if Nintendo can't surprise gamers, it's userbase will be smaller than it could be, had it stolen costumers from Sony and MS.
It's a question of fidelity to the brand. And so far, that hasn't changed in Nintendo's favour.

In other words, what might happen is a repeat of what happened after Wi: the novelty was gone and it's new found userbase didn't care for Wii U.
If all Switch does is offer a one time pass to Nintendo's side, come PS5 and XB2, these sales we are seeing most likely won't repeat themselves.

New audiences may appear. Who knows…

Miyamotoo said:
DélioPT said:

 

You missing point, what you or some other fan want is irrelevant, Nintendo strategy of focusing on short term is working, they dont need to focus on long term. Switch is selling great regardles PS4 and XB1, and actualy on pair with PS4 second year sales.

They dont even need to say that, from Switch launch we saw they dont showing hole years lineup on E3, of course there will be more 2018. announcements after E3 also (most of them will be 3rd party). Actually last years E3 they also said 6-9 months focus but reality was that 90% of showed games were this years games, but that dont mean they showed hole lineup in that time period, for instance games like Paladins and Fortnite are announced and released in same time period.

If focusing on the short term is so great and the only thing companies need, why doesn't everyone do the same? Specially after looking at Switch. Why is that?