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Nautilus said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:
By anything I mean the fact that 1st party holds more weight than 3rd party, thus directs are rated mostly by the 1st party showings. How you extrapolated that into me not caring about 3rd partys again I'll never know, but I'm not even gonna word my response any differently, just gonna straight up copy-paste.

"No one ever said anything about Fortnite not being a good get, speaking of putting words in people's mouths. However it is undeniable that Nintendo systems are bought primarily for Nintendo games, so naturally the 3rd party stuff doesn't hold as much weight as 1st party to most people. That's not me saying everyone is me lol, that's just going by sales data and from actually listening to those who were disappointed in the direct."

Also I never disagreed with the direct being better without leaks, only that it would make a difference to how it's perceived, but again this a moot point.

I didnt extrapolate anything, Im just pointing out that you are dismissing the third party games shown there as mostly inconsequential, shown by your lack of interest in them with frases as "Even if the games hadnt leaked, it would make the direct 0.2% better" or the non acknoledgement of its success found with the consoles through its sales numbers and such.So it seems you are misunderstanding me once again, so let me rephrase:

Nintendo games usually do the heavily lifting of the consoles sales, and its not much different with the Switch.However, in a matter that is usually uncharacteristic to Nintendo hardware, 3rd party games are generally selling extremelly well on the Switch, and all of them are not shovelware.So it stands to reason that a considerable number of Switch owners and thus, people watching the Nintendo presentation, wouldd have been more thrilled with the presentation itself if such games as DB Fighters Z, Fortnite and Overcooked 2 werent leaked ahead of the presentation.For an example of such an "adoption" of one of these games is Fortnite, which was downloaded over 2 million times in a single day.Yes, its a free to play game, but people wont download anything unless they are interested.

In conclusion, what I mean to say is that all your talk about third parties being mostly irrelevant compared to Nintendo games being shown and that the show would be 0.2% better if those same games hadnt been leaked is complete BS, especially because you are looking at this in a personal way, and Im using data to back up my claims.

And I'm using data to back up my claim of 1st party holding more weight, thus directs are rated mainly by their 1st party showing. That some 3rd partys have seen moderate success doesn't change this. That quote of mine, "Even if the games hadnt leaked, it would make the direct 0.2% better," is not dismissing the games themselves rather than the effect surprise factor has. 2 million people myself included still downloaded Fortnite day 1 despite everyone knowing it was coming. Mario + Rabbids was still a hit despite being spoiled months in advance.

So if surprise factor means little, and most people mainly care about 1st party which is why the direct is getting heat in the first place, then I think it's less bs and more common sense to say thay the leaks had no effect on how the direct is being percieved.