CrazyGamer2017 said:
Oh man you are so making my point. First you quote me on hypotheses I made because I clearly explained I do not know the exact situation so not knowing the details of something means I engage in speculations, check your dictionary, there is a difference between speculations and accusations, others engage in accusations (it's Sony's fault, end of story) I engage in speculations which is the LOGICAL thing to do when you do NOT have all the part of the story. Not knowing who did what but knowing that for example the game's account is blocked on the Switch OBVIOUSLY leads to speculation as Nintendo has at least something to say about what happens on their OWN system don't you think? From there it is revealed that it's just the EG account of the game that is blocked on Switch so from there I CLEARLY said: it's then most likely both Sony and EG that are part of the issue here, if so then Microsoft and Nintendo have probably nothing to do with this. I find it interesting that you so thoroughly checked my posts in this thread but totally ignored this line about me saying if so then it's not Microsoft nor Nintendo that are at fault here. So ignoring that and only seeing the parts where I speculate to use them against me when it's clearly speculation and not a statement of fact, is kind of purposefully MEAN of you. YOU are definitely complicating something that is not. And to finish this rejoinder, when I read some comments here (including yours) I can't help but wonder about people's sense of logic, NOT their education in general, JUST their LOGIC. Is there ANYTHING I said that you understood properly? Perhaps English is not a language you wield proficiently enough to understand the finer details and intricacies of the conversation? Just to be clear I am not judging your education in general, I'm sure you are good in that department but you and everybody MUST understand that in order to have a seamless conversation in a forum you need to both master the language used in it and have a fairly strong sense of logic. Otherwise you are complicating and obfuscating. That applies to everybody, I will NOT engage in, say a political conversation in an Italian forum because my Italian is really bad so I could not understand exactly what is said and that would ONLY lead to redundant replies and counter-replies as we are doing right now. So back to topic: Sony is guilty of WANTING to limit cross-play, EG is just as guilty of accepting in THIS CASE Nintendo and Microsoft have nothing to do with this. I can't be any more clear. Sony can pressure EG because Sony is market leader and EG can pressure Sony cause Fortnite is such a HUGELY POPULAR game on the PS4 that removing it would mean a HUGE shit storm for Sony. THEREFORE both companies did what anyone with a sense of business would do: they AGREED and when you agree you are part of whatever happens in that agreement and thus you are responsible for the consequences. Now what part don't you understand here? It's clear as day, it's as logical as it can ever be and it's in clear English. |
I can see this back and forth growing arms & legs so I'm going to end on these last points - feel free to respond but I'll most likely not take this debate any further.
A couple of posts ago you said "That's what I have ALWAYS been saying since the beginning of this thread." referring to your view of this whole Fortnite debacle.
I then posted a handful of comments showing that this was very much not the case... I don't see how you can pretend otherwise. Theories / speculation or otherwise, your argument has inarguably changed since your first post - full stop.
And you now say that your earlier theories and speculation shouldn't be used against you as you essentially didn't know the full story.
You do know that nobody is forcing you to post half-baked theories based on insufficient information? Calling out Nintendo & Microsoft as the guilty parties when, you yourself admit to not knowing enough about the situation is not the best approach in my opinion and is likely to be interpreted as inflammatory to everyone who isn't aware that you're shooting from the hip without the facts...
It does speak volumes though, that without knowing the facts, your instant, instinctual reaction was to defend Sony... Again, blind loyalty to a corporation who just wants your money is a bit absurd in my opinion.
And also, we're on page 39 of this thread and you're still using the term 'cross-play' - this isn't anything to do with cross-play!!
Lastly, to your point about Sony & EG both being guilty, as they essentially both have leverage over each other. This is true to an extent, although Sony has way more leverage over EG than vice-versa & most importantly, it is Sony who is pushing this agenda. If you want to attribute blame then it's 99% Sony, 1% EG - but that's just my opinion.