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Cobretti2 said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:
You said Nintendo can only sell to non-fans by announcing games 2+ years in advance. They didn't do that with the Wii, so according to your logic everyone who bought it is a Nintendo fan, hence my comment.

So what is the exact size of the small hardcore fanbase and by extension, what do you expect the Switch to sell before it falls off a cliff? How much does it need to sell before you stop pretending to know the preferences and gaming habits of millions of people you've never met?

I can just say Microsoft fans became Sony fans then.

Well for a home console 15-20 million, for a portable 40-50 million. Then throw in a percentage on top were parents by their kids the "kid friendly" console.

We all know Wii sold to casual also, that is an outlayer as they did not come back for more. They failed to recapture them with the Wii U.

Exactly my point, Microsoft fans jumped ship because Sony showed promise in the future.

How can you can be considered a hardcore Nintendo fan if you don't buy both systems? That's sounds like an excuse to explain away the huge discrepancy between console and handheld sales that show there actually aren't a whole lot of loyal fans. I asked for Switch numbers specifically which is a hybrid, but your console numbers clearly dont apply so we'll go with your handheld ones, cause apparently 40-50 million is a small number. 3DS did more than that, and Switch is outpacing the 3DS without a massive price cut and value saving bundle, so I'd say you can go ahead stop pretending to know people you don't now.

Doesn't change my point though, that your claims are not based on fact or proof, only "because I say so!" logic which works both ways. Guess instead of showing you what's wrong with your thinking I'll just straight up tell ya. To say Nintendo games only appeal to Nintendo fans makes no sense as people aren't born Nintendo fans. That Nintendo fans even exist means Nintendo games have to be able to appeal to non-fans in the first place. Also, strange you'd say the issue is that Nintendo doesn't announce their games sooner while saying Nintendo games don't appeal to non-fans. As if when you announce a game somehow affects how appealing it is, but I digress!