NieR: Automata coming to Xbox One on June 26

[DonFerrari]

Chazore said:

DonFerrari said:

1) ok let's ignore it

2) Nope, VGC have used platform holder as one of the companies creating the platform for a long time as I can get. But as I said I was explaining what I meant not deviating the subject.

3) You were the only one singling out, I haven't said it was bad if MS done or good if Sony did. All I said was that the examples I checked we had clear evidence of TR losing sales because of it, and that the ones during PS3 era still outsold X360 version but probably also lost sales due to it and that this one probably will sell less than if launched together.

4) We can't rule out all of them as being bad without context, they are all potentially bad, but some where the only option for the game to see the light of the day.

1)Well we have to, because we know where accusations like that lead.

2)VGC is not the dictionary, or the law of definition. 

3) It was singled out because this conversation went from timed exclusive deals to "it can work with the platform holder", and then we also had "funding" tossed into the conversation. The ones that are often talked about as "getting it right" are Sony, while the others that have made timed deals or "bad" funding decisions would be MS and to a degree Nintendo.

I said, and I still say it now. Timed exclusivity deals are just flat out bad for the consumer and the the one who makes the game. I don't care if it "benefits" the one making the deal. It doesn't benefit me in any way, let alone the game producer that I'd like to buy from.

4)making that excuse that it was the only possible option is just defending the concept of money hatting something for exclusivity. We now live in an age where we have multiple venues to choose and support to and from. The gaming industry is not solely based on MS, Nintendo and Sony.

2) Have I said it was? Still you were the one that tried to say how it is called HERE (or is that here another place?) and still again as I said, I was explaining what I was calling platform holders, but you said I was deviating from the subject, have no idea why.

3) Again, if it wasn't worth for the platform holders they wouldn't pay for it. How you gone from that to saying when Sony do is good and others is bad I have no idea. Also if the developers or producers didn't think it benefited them they also wouldn't do. It may not benefit you as PC gamer or even not benefit gamers at large, but to say no one benefits is wrong since companies aren't imbeciles to keep doing things they think won't benefit them.

4) Sure there are other funders besides the big 3, not all game would be able to get them (I believe you mean crowd funding), considering the budget of AAA games and average crowd funding doesn't seem like they would be able to sustain multiple AAA games there... and most games get publishers without exclusivity... Have you seem where Sega talked about why Yakuza was exclusive to PS? Do you think they where lying?