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irstupid said:
thismeintiel said:

  Solo suffers from two problems.  One, it's just a mediocre film.  One that feels the need to explore every single part of Solo's past (except for Jabba, for some reason), including some dumb reason why he is called Solo, instead of that just being his name.  Two, and more importantly, it came out after TLJ.  That movie was just so disappointing to so many fans that they are just done with the series.  Something Lucas couldn't even do with his underwhelming prequels, Disney has done with just one poor excuse for a film.

Yea pretty amazing what they did with the new movies. They had the world by the balls after the Force Awakens. Then the last jedi comes out and people are nearly done with the whoel franchise as a whole. It's amazing. Like you said, as much shit as the prequels got and continues to get, they still didn't turn people away from the series.

I always consider a franchise that someone loves like having sex. You may have a bad experience once in a while, but nothing that will keep you from wanting to ever have sex again. The Last Jedi somehow managed to do that. It's like the Last Jedi raped us, and we are now scarred from ever getting intimate again.

Yea, I don't think I've seen a fan backlash this fast and strong.  You start with a record setting film, that while not perfect, at least felt like a SW film and set up some good mysteries.  Then you have a friggin spinoff make more than $1B.  That's a strong brand.  But, then you have a main entry that is so bad, you make ~$400M WW less than the lower end estimates.  It lasts two weeks shorter in theaters than the spinoff.  In fact, after the first two weeks, RO made slightly more money than TLJ did.  Not only that, but it also lead to much lower merch sales.  And then that leads into the first ever SW flop, which will cost the studio ~$80M just from the production budget.  Add in the marketing and it's probably more like $180M.

And I really see nothing coming from Disney signaling that they have actually accepted the backlash and are going to change course.  I think it's going to take Ep 9 making only $900M-$1B WW before they actually do something.