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quickrick said:
Ljink96 said:

But you're also not taking into consideration the fact that fans of those franchises more than likely own a PS4 already. And again, we don't know Nintendo's 2019 or what it may look like. Sony is more of an open book, but Nintendo holds its secrets close to their chest. Coming off the Wii U, I don't think you're judging Nintendo based off where they are now. This is sufficed to say, a much different Nintendo than they were and since Switch will combine handheld and home console franchises on one device, Switch won't fall as easily as you predict.

We don't know about Switch 2019 third party support yet but if the E3 leak is anything to go by, I think it'll get enough support to retain its high selling stature. Keep in mind, even on the tailwinds of God of War, Switch is still within range of the PS4, on those old Nintendo Wii U ports. Which is interesting to say the least. By comparison, Switch should have been left in the dust but that wasn't necessarily the case.

So I don't think we know enough to dictate what 3rd party support Switch will get. And while they're living off Nintendo games (and tons of indies) the upcoming months look much different for Switch. You can't have a launch year like Switch had and follow up with another similar year, PS4 or Xbone sure didn't have a 1st year like Switch had, and couple that with the fact that numerous developers didn't have faith in Switch, it speaks in volumes of even against the odds, it sold like it did, in PS4's peak years.

The fact of the matter is, Switch naturally has a greater selling potential because of how long PS4 has been out on the market, and the fact that it doesn't yet have games that historically push Nintendo hardware sales to multiple months of dominance. That would be Gen 8 Pokemon, Animal Crossing, 2D Mario, etc. As great as DOA6 and DMC V sound, they're not selling more than those franchises. The bottom line is Switch has greater potential, it's younger and has more to prove than the PS4 does. 

We really don't know how close ps4 and switch sales are in terms of sell though, all we have is vgchartz numbers which are not reliable, ps4 could very well have a much bigger lead.

I disagree about nintendo not having the titles that historically push hardware, 3d mario is has out sold animal crossing on 3ds, mario kart is massive up there with pokemon, zelda has changed formula like god of war is being labeled as revolutionary, and well mario odyssey is another one. you mention MHW and god of war, which are much smaller franchises then all those games i mentioned, they have became much bigger with these new entries, just like 3d mario and zelda but we'll see what happens soon. animal crossing and pokemon didn't make 3ds sales explode thats for sure. 3ds had its best year when 3d mario and mario kart came out.

As of March 31st of this year, Mario 3D Land has sold 11.96M copies. Animal Crossing New Leaf has sold 11.69 million copies despite being released 2 years after 3D Land. 3D Mario is big, but it's not that big dude. It's simply not. I even said it sells on par with Animal Crossing which it did on 3DS, actually at worse rate being released 2 years earlier.

Zelda, is big, but it again is not as big as a 2D Mario or Pokemon or Smash Bros. Historically anyway. Skyward Sword did not outsell Brawl, nor did Twilight Princess on Wii. Odyssey is huge, but more than likely Smash will outsell it, Pokemon will outsell it, 2D Mario will outsell it, and Animal Crossing will probably sell as well as Odyssey, of course depending on how the game is received and even announced. Animal Crossing and Pokemon will make Switch sales explode because this is a much different environment than we were in  6 years ago bud. And perhaps the most important part about these games...they appeal to people who don't yet own a Switch. And that in itself is huge, and brings great sales potential.

Then you have the Nintendo B tier franchises that constantly sell millions of copies, that have yet to release that still build up hardware sales. Your Fire Emblem, Yoshi, Mario RPGs, Luigi's Mansion, Kid Icarus, etc. Which is why I keep saying I'll wait until the year is up to make a decision because we don't know what Nintendo's 2019 looks like besides Pokemon Generation 8. If Nintendo does 1 huge game a month like year 1 for 2019, PS4 is more than likely not beating Switch. And just as Sony can drop the PS4 price, Nintendo could do the same as parts will be cheaper, or they can release dockless Switch units like they are in Japan. But yeah I'm done here, I'll wait for E3 and their 2019 presentation later this year to decide.

Last edited by Ljink96 - on 08 June 2018