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LethalP on 06 June 2018
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The_Liquid_Laser said:
Megiddo said:

Acting like Sony is screwed for the PS5 is hilarious. They have dominated the generation pretty much from the start. They continue to have an extremely strong first-party studio lineup which continues to produce profitable titles. They abandoned the dwindling handheld market in which they were only losing money.

They've pretty much taken all the right steps and hopefully will have learned a bit of humility after the transition from PS2 to PS3 but history does tend to repeat itself.

Every generation is different.  Sony dominated like never before with the PS2, then they totally botched the launch of PS3.  More importantly Microsoft and Nintendo were both tough competition in Generation 7.  The biggest reason Sony did poorly in Generation 7 is that their competition was just better.  Then in Generation 8, both Microsoft and Nintendo totally botched their launches.  The PS4 didn't do anything special with their launch at all, and yet they dominated Generation 8.  

My point is that the competition matters.  Nintendo Switch is serious competition.  If they don't take Nintendo seriously this time, then the PS5 is screwed.


zorg1000 said:

Ya its really silly to think PS5 would be in trouble by releasing 3-4 years after Switch.

We have seen that Switch & PS4 sales are not affected by one another based on the fact Switch had one of the best launch years in history at the same time that PS4 had its peak year.

PS4 and Switch are different enough that they can easily coexist/complement each other and there is no reason to believe a similar situation wont happen with PS5.

If you don't think Nintendo and Sony are competing then you are in for one hell of a surprise.  The reason both consoles can do well in the same year is because Nintendo is in both the handheld and home console markets simultaneously.  Sony can win the home market and Nintendo can win the handheld market and then both do well the same year.  But if Nintendo wins the home market then Sony is going to get spanked.  

In previous generations, it was considered an advantage to be able to release your console a year or more before the competition.  Now everyone is acting like it doesn't matter at all.  If Sony gives Nintendo a 3-4 year head start, they are seriously screwed.

The Switch isn't selling to the same market as the PS4. The Switch is selling to the Nintendo market, the one they carved out for themselves. The library isn't robust enough to replace the PlayStation, it gets gimped versions of the very odd third party game like FIFA and Doom, but the full vision is realised the PS/Xbox/PC. It's a completely different demographic for Switch.

The industry and public don't view the Switch as an alternative to the PS4 or Xbox One. If they did and it was in the same market it would have directly eaten into the sales of the PS4, but it hasn't. On the contrary the PS4 has had two of it's fastest selling years so far all while the Switch was on the market.

The Switch releasing 3 years prior to PS5 means nothing for the growth of a PlayStation console. If Xbox got a 3 year head start that would be significant, because they sell to the same demographic and those same people who got an Xbox in those 3 years could have bought a PS5 instead. PS and Xbox are the core consumer base, the Switch isn't.

Why don't you know this? Fucks sake, you know what I find strange about gaming? It's the only medium I know of where it's die hard practitioners don't even know how their own industry works.