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thismeintiel on 04 June 2018
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Soundwave said:
Nem said:

 

Umm... i'm not disagreeing with the point, but do you mean domesticly in the US? Because TLJ did above 1billion and infinity war is close to hitting 2 billion. Also, you just need to go on youtube to find out that Star Wars fans have been up in arms for quite a while about the social agendas being pushed into the movies and the disregard for the source material. Solo is the culmination of that. There is/was a boycott campaign for the movie from fans. I can only hope Disney takes action after the flop and removes Kathleen Kennedy. It might even already be too late. The woman has ruined the SW brand and is gonna leave Disney with a dud of an aquisition.

I'm talking domestically, the guy above was saying he expected $750-$800 million domestic for TLJ which is laughably unrealistic. Avengers Infinity War is not even going to hit $700 million domestic and that basically is the climax of 10 years of work by Marvel. Black Panther might be able to inch its way to $700 mill. 

"Star Wars fans" are not one monolithic group, lots of "Star Wars fans" liked the last movie, some liked Solo, some didn't like Rogue One, some like the prequels, some hate the prequels, etc. etc. Basically the only thing they agree on is that Empire Strikes Back is a good movie, that's about the only universal thing consensus Star Wars have. The fact is The Force Awakens and Rogue One were massive successes with female leads and diverse casts.  I don't think anyone is dumb enough to argue that. 

Solo is underperforming, but it has a more "traditional" cast and really no political message at all. So there's that too. 

The Last Jedi performed at about 65% of The Force Awakens. Empire did about 69% of A New Hope. Attack of the Clones did 65% of The Phantom Menace. For Special Edition release in 1997, Empire didn't less than 50% of A New Hope. So the second chapter having lower box office is really nothing new for Star Wars. 

People need to understand something too, outside of the Star Wars nerd fanbase, the "regular joe" audience isn't as fanatical about Star Wars. They like it, but don't live and breathe and die with it, they'd be just as happy watching Marvel or even Fast & Furious film (moreso in some cases). The first new Star Wars movie in 15+ years is an event. The 3rd one in 3 straight years that isn't a finale is not an event anymore. It's optional viewing for a lot of people. That's something Star Wars fans have no concept of though because they take the whole damn thing way too seriously. 

Serious reading fail there. That's not what I expected, it's what analysts inside the movie industry expected. BOM stated that $750M-$830M  at the DBO was the safe bet. And why wouldn't it be. TLJ had a massive amount of hype and goodwill built up around it because of the return of Luke and the reveals teased in TFA. For Christ's sake, it opened only 11.3% down from TFA. And adjusted for inflation, TLJ joins Ep 2&3 in the distinct honor of being the only main installments to not pass $720M.

After that you just go on to use the same tired excuses with no context that have been used many times before, but are just that, excuses. 

Last edited by thismeintiel - on 04 June 2018