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irstupid on 31 May 2018
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tripenfall said:
Faelco said:

Uproar because of an Asian girl? What are you talking about? 

 

I didn't dislike TLJ while watching it. But the more I thought about it afterward, the more it made me cringe. They could have made a good movie with it. But they took only bad decisions at the critical moments. 

 

Carrie Fisher is dead? Well, here is a great scene of her son refusing to kill her and seeing her killed by someone else. Nice hommage to the actress, nice character development moment for Kylo. Nope, the Force allows you to fly in space, how cool is that!.... Ridiculous. 

 

2 characters escape the rebels/empire war and could show us new protagonists and another perspective? Nope, rich people are bad and let's save some horses! 

 

Kylo kills Snoke and his guards and shows some great character development, he's going to the light, great! Nope, nevermind, let's bring him back to the monominded villain. And let's forget the entire backstory of Snoke and the Order while we're at it. 

 

Remember our bad ass female Stormtrooper captain that everyone thought was underused in the last movie? She's back! Oh, she's dead now. Nevermind.

 

One of the heroes who's been treated like a piece of sh*t during the entire movie finally has the opportunity to do something cool and has a plan to save everyone! Oh, no, he's definitely a POS who should have guessed that the woman in charge, who appeared out of nowhere by the way, already planned everything and was going to save everyone. Oh, and she's going to destroy an entire fleet by sacrificing only her own life, no rebel ever thought of that before, too bad!

 

Finn has a golden opportunity to sacrifice himself too and conclude in a great way his character arc, saving the rebels from his former comrades. Nope, the entirely shoehorned love interest will save him with some 5 years old "Killing is bad, saving is love" philosophy. Let's forget that the entire saga is about people fighting to the death for their beliefs. Hollywood obligatory love scene. And they're going to survive just the 2 of them in the middle of the battleground by the way, easy!

 

And while we're brainstorming on drugs about what the Force can do, let's make an illusion of Luke save everyone (because the First Order doesn't have any sensors able to see through an illusion, and Kylo can't sense sh*t). Oh, and the illusion will kill Luke afterward for some reason. Classy and heroic way to end the story of the most iconic and popular character of the saga.

 

You want to know what you should expect in the future? An unknown kid nobody cares about can move a broom with his mind! How crazy! Reserve your Star Wars IX tickets now to know what will happen to him!

 

I obviously forgot other things. Yep, you're right, the female Asian character (who is a terrible character for every reason other than her race) is the main reason people dislike the movie. 

I'm talking about all the people who somehow feel threatened because TLJ has a female lead, a "bad guy" that isn't super masculine, an Asian character in a lead role in a Star Wars movie for the first time who has a kiss with a black man. It blows my mind that we have to talk about this but for thousands of people this seemed to be the reason they hated the movie.

These are the same people (in this thread there's a few) who won't even watch Solo because Lando is a pan sexual. WTF? I've seen it twice and if there's a scene where that occurs I must have missed it. The movie goes to great lengths to describe him as a ladies man - think for yourselves people. The part where the droid talks about liking him is a scene to try and reinforce the fact droids were self aware and thinking for themselves....a trope used in countless shows like Westworld or movies like Terminator.

I'm not saying you should like this movie - but RELAX it's a movie. This xenophobia that runs rampant on these sites is a disgrace....

You do realize you're probably talking about like 100 people total. Just a small group of actual bigots who have a loud voice on the internet. It's not exclusive to Star Wars either, they will complain and "boycott" other movies. Ignore those 100 people. It's people like you and the media talking about them that are giving them essentially a voice. Ignore them.

99.9% of bashing of the movie is always about the plot, ruining characters, pointless scenes, forced comedy, ect. 99% of the other side of the argument is what you are doing. Calling us bigots and saying we are racists for thinking that 'asian' character sucked ass. We don't give a shit she was Asian. She could have been any race or sex, her character and its arc still sucked ass.

I see people complain all the time about the saving Finn by that 'asian' character (just saying Asian character as it would annoy you and also can't recal her name) during his sacrifice. Yes the whole saving him for love and what not was cringey, but what annoyed me more was the fact that she could save him. From what I recal in the scene, Finn drives straight the entire time at full speed. The others all veered off. So how did she catch up enough to ram him perpendicular? Okay, so I guess he was slowed down by the ramming beam for her to catch up. But then why the heck didn't he get shot down. The empire was like amazing at its accuracy just earlier shooting them down left and right, but then when its just one left and he is in a beeline towards obviously your important item, not only do they never hit him, I don't even think they shoot at him. But let's ignore all that again. Finn and the 'asian' crash and then on foot run all the way to the freaking bunker before these AT'AT's can get close. Like seriously, each step of the AT-AT should cover like 30 yards or more. And I guess the empire again just ignores two people running across and open desert for safety.

I'm going to just stop there for now. I could continue to talk about that ONE scene. The point is, there are many many scenes in the movie that we can spend paragraphs after paragraphs bringing out flaws, stupid things, horrible moments, ect in regards to that movie. Then after our Rant you will come in and say "you're racists for not liking the Asian."