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Faelco on 31 May 2018
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tripenfall said:
Faelco said:

Uproar because of an Asian girl? What are you talking about? 

 

I didn't dislike TLJ while watching it. But the more I thought about it afterward, the more it made me cringe. They could have made a good movie with it. But they took only bad decisions at the critical moments. 

 

Carrie Fisher is dead? Well, here is a great scene of her son refusing to kill her and seeing her killed by someone else. Nice hommage to the actress, nice character development moment for Kylo. Nope, the Force allows you to fly in space, how cool is that!.... Ridiculous. 

 

2 characters escape the rebels/empire war and could show us new protagonists and another perspective? Nope, rich people are bad and let's save some horses! 

 

Kylo kills Snoke and his guards and shows some great character development, he's going to the light, great! Nope, nevermind, let's bring him back to the monominded villain. And let's forget the entire backstory of Snoke and the Order while we're at it. 

 

Remember our bad ass female Stormtrooper captain that everyone thought was underused in the last movie? She's back! Oh, she's dead now. Nevermind.

 

One of the heroes who's been treated like a piece of sh*t during the entire movie finally has the opportunity to do something cool and has a plan to save everyone! Oh, no, he's definitely a POS who should have guessed that the woman in charge, who appeared out of nowhere by the way, already planned everything and was going to save everyone. Oh, and she's going to destroy an entire fleet by sacrificing only her own life, no rebel ever thought of that before, too bad!

 

Finn has a golden opportunity to sacrifice himself too and conclude in a great way his character arc, saving the rebels from his former comrades. Nope, the entirely shoehorned love interest will save him with some 5 years old "Killing is bad, saving is love" philosophy. Let's forget that the entire saga is about people fighting to the death for their beliefs. Hollywood obligatory love scene. And they're going to survive just the 2 of them in the middle of the battleground by the way, easy!

 

And while we're brainstorming on drugs about what the Force can do, let's make an illusion of Luke save everyone (because the First Order doesn't have any sensors able to see through an illusion, and Kylo can't sense sh*t). Oh, and the illusion will kill Luke afterward for some reason. Classy and heroic way to end the story of the most iconic and popular character of the saga.

 

You want to know what you should expect in the future? An unknown kid nobody cares about can move a broom with his mind! How crazy! Reserve your Star Wars IX tickets now to know what will happen to him!

 

I obviously forgot other things. Yep, you're right, the female Asian character (who is a terrible character for every reason other than her race) is the main reason people dislike the movie. 

I'm talking about all the people who somehow feel threatened because TLJ has a female lead, a "bad guy" that isn't super masculine, an Asian character in a lead role in a Star Wars movie for the first time who has a kiss with a black man. It blows my mind that we have to talk about this but for thousands of people this seemed to be the reason they hated the movie.

These are the same people (in this thread there's a few) who won't even watch Solo because Lando is a pan sexual. WTF? I've seen it twice and if there's a scene where that occurs I must have missed it. The movie goes to great lengths to describe him as a ladies man - think for yourselves people. The part where the droid talks about liking him is a scene to try and reinforce the fact droids were self aware and thinking for themselves....a trope used in countless shows like Westworld or movies like Terminator.

I'm not saying you should like this movie - but RELAX it's a movie. This xenophobia that runs rampant on these sites is a disgrace....

Hum... The only real difference in the cast between TFA and TLJ is the terrible Asian character. The female lead and black character were in TFA, and Finn even had a far more important role. 

 

And yet, TFA didn't have the backlash that TLJ got. You are really oversimplying the criticism. You surely have a few racists and sexists sometimes, but if TLJ is disliked, it's because it's a bad movie above any other reason. 

 

For Solo, for me it's because TLJ showed me that Disney don't know what they're doing and where they're going with Star Wars, so I won't go see another SW movie, except if one of them get stellar critics. And I'm bothered by the "pando" too, because when I'm wondering if I should go see a movie and read quotes from the writer, I want to read "I wrote a great story, with well developed and likable characters, an engaging plot and breathtaking twists", not "I made one of my characters pansexual, it's awesome". Their communication is completely unrelated to my interests, so it doesn't interest me. Or at least it doesn't make me interested, since I already wasn't very interested before.