John Kodera: “PS4 Is Entering The Final Stages Of It’s Life-Cycle.”

[KBG29]

KingofTrolls said:

KBG29 said:

1.I doubt Sony will go all in on an expensive, but extreamly capable PS5. Remember what happened with PS3.

2.Ultimately I would love it if next gen could start with multiple teirs and form factors. Seeing a $400 1080p entry level PS5 Home Console, a $600 PS5 Phone, and an $800 PS5 4K model would would be awesome.

PS3 was another story. It was multiplatform-wise and games wise in general ...  it looked worse than 360 despite huuuuge price difference. Early PS3 games were PS2 games with bumped graphics, now compare it to Gears of War, online system etc. Thats the point. Also PS2 alone was a huge competitor.

The audience - in early days - saw Cell and Blu ray as misinvestment. Early PS3 user feel no difference with his hard disk, because 360 games were insta play. Simple as that.

2. No no no. PS4 Phone is a thing nobody wants, also nobody wants to feel like 2nd class consumer when he opens his/her brandly new console. Hard to explain it to me, just look at Indian cars Tata. They got awesome price/quality offering, but were mostly viewed as " car for poorers". That kill the sales.

Console gamers are not PC gamers. Any kind of segretation is very dangerous and create rightfylly backslash. I saw ur post here from time to time and I can say u are a minority enthustiast, that's all.

I mostly agree as I said in the rest of my post. Even if PS5 solved all of those early PS3 stumbles, I don't see anything changing peoples mind on the value of consoles. Sony and Microsoft have been trying to push the value of consoles for two generations, but people just don't want it. For some reason people just like spending a fortune buying gadgets. Instead of a $600 console that can handle everything, they will spend thousands on a console, a Blu-ray Player, a Roku, a Phone, a Handheld, a Tablet, an E-reader, a Smartwatch, an AI assistant speaker, and whatever other redundent product they come up wth next. That is just the reality we live in, and why Sony needs to keep the PS5 price as compact as possible.

As cool as it would be, to me, having multiple tiers on day one is most likely a dangerous direction. Like you said, someone is going to be hurt, (or say they feel hurt to cause a stir), if they have a base and premium model. If they want to do other form factors or higher performance models, it has to be later once the platform is established, and the core complainers, can't mislead the masses with their agenda.    

VGPolyglot said:

KBG29 said:

I doubt Sony will go all in on an expensive, but extreamly capable PS5. Remember what happened with PS3. I would love to believe times have changed, and people would embrace a console that delivers an unprecedented power to price ratio. But, after Sony tried giving us an $800 PS3 for $500, and seeing it nearly destroy their brand, I just don't have faith in consumers.

It's not the consumers' faults, the corporation has to convince people that their product is worth getting.

It is always the consumers fault when they get ripped off, or buy bad products. We have had the ability to do our own research on every purchase we make for decades. You know you want something, you reach out to professional(s), you read form(s), you check book(s), and browse search engine(s), you gather a list of potential product(s) for whatever your need is. Then you reasearch each product, and see if it is good for you. People should be smart enough to find obscure products, see through both positive and negative reviews, and make a strong decision. 

I know most people just buy, and it is unrealistic to expect people actually think about the way they spend their money. At the end of the day, we all have the ability to find the best products, and it should not be a matter of propaganda and persuasion that determines what we buy. This is for everything, not just consoles or elctronics.