I'm tired of this overemphasis on diversity spilling into our entertainment.

[Azuren]

Smear-Gel said:

Azuren said:

You did. And then you kept asserting that discrimination based on things people can't change is okay, which is bigotry. So how am I supposed to walk away from bigotry claiming to be in the right?

 

We live in about as much of a post-discrimination society as it's going to get. Lines are never going to vanish, because that's just how some people are. But to blanket entire communities and ethnicities with general statements won't help. Assuming that every black man is ironically the short person in your visual aid is soft bigotry, and assuming every white man is the tall one is also a form of bigotry. Everyone has different places they come from. A black kid in Orange county is not worse off than a white kid in Cincinnati. You wanna talk to me about context and history, and then you imply that all black people need help while white people deserve persecution for the color of their skin? So please: continue with the bigoted comments. Maybe post a few more pictures that explain this flawed world view. But maybe one day you'll open your eyes and realize that "holy shit, blaming and persecuting the ancestors of persecutors only perpetuates persecution."

 

And yeah, you kind of walked yourself into a minefield. I already said that the shit comedy played a role in the Ghostbusters movie sucking. Then you proceeded to walk your ideology off of a cliff without realizing. So please, pick a question to answer. Doesn't have to be all of them, I'd just like to see leftist rhetoric collapse under the weight of its own bullshit.

You're losing me here. On all points. This is slowly getting more and more shifted into a conversation I'm not having, that I assume you're more comfortable with. Ive been ignoring your leftist vs right meme because I dont care about that at all, every country has thier own views of what is left or right anyways. I'll probably check out for real now because while discussions are nice, three way discussions with two people are not. You are free to chalk this up as an epik win vs a DESTROYED leftist. I'm trying to be as neutral as possible here but it's pointless when you're veering off into whatever this is.

My perspectives come from the fact that I live in the caribbean, where Ive had to learn about the relationships between countries and races all my life. I certainly disagree that this is as good as it gets. And while you're right in looking at those very specific, individual people, there are still systematic things that affect a group that cant be ignored. Even if literally not every single person is personally affected. And that image is as simple as it gets, so there really is no point going further after that. Also I see you're trying to appeal to emotion by saying stuff like bigotry, discrimination, and the like in the hopes that those names will make me feel bad and come on your side, but that's not happening.

I mean it's pretty easy to walk, I'm walking away from your incorrect points without much harm to my day. Unless you think this thread is more important than I do. Or that I'm exausting my points because I have nothing else to say. Like, you're approaching this from the mindset you are objectively right, which really isnt helpful. Even if I think I'm right, in a conversation like this, asserting this so hard really wont help.

On that last point I have no idea what you're talking about, ive been very clear on what I sad relating to ghostbusters and you keep adding other shit. The biggest reason the movie sucked was the humour. I'm not invested enough to get baited into complaining about other things or latching on to any other points you wanna debate today, find someone else for that.

If you don't want to be a "DESTROYED LEFTIST", then start making arguments that aren't steeped in racial or gender bigotry. Because if you come at me with that bullshit, I'm gonna slap it down every time for the bigotry that it is.

 

Also, I think you mean systemic, since that would refer to things like racism that exist in clear opposition to the law. Systemically, there's only one group of people with laws specifically passed against their favor (in America, at least), and that's men. And I'm not using terms like bigot and racist to sway you; that's just what things that you're defending are. If you're going to say it's okay for a black person to play a white character but not the other way around, then congratulations: that's racism. Argue it all you want, that's what it is.

 

And yeah, I suppose it would be easy for someone who knows he's wrong deep down to walk away. I mean, if I felt somewhere in my heart that "Maybe that's not racist", I would gradually move away from the conversation. But no, instead there's someone insisting on something that matches the definition of racism to a tee isn't actually racism, but is only fair.

 

Yeah, and then I asked very simple questions that, upon answering one truthfully, would see your entire ideology collapse on top of you.