I'm tired of this overemphasis on diversity spilling into our entertainment.

[Azuren]

Smear-Gel said:

Azuren said:

The difference is your argument predicates persecution against over-represented identities under the hard left assumption that you can't persecute white straight cis males. Mine is "all persecution is bad". So you can think you're right all you'd like: you're still the one advocating for persecution. I bet you also think Affirmative Action is a good thing.

 

Were people upset, or weren't they? Was the movie good because they made Domino black? Would it have been worse if they had an equally talented white woman play the white character? Do you feel somehow justified that leftist sites liked the blackwashing just as much as the movie itself? 

Didnt I say we arent gonna convince each other? But sure, let's do this I guess. The difference is I think I'm right and you think you're right. A wise man once said "Don't pretend it's more complicated than that."

I'd love to live in a post-discrimination society that allows me to agree with you, beleive me. The Affirmative Action point (I really did guess corectly it would be brought up eventually) just makes me wanna do this even less. In a society in which racial discrimination has never happened, it would be bad. In reality, it isnt. Because minorites not getting equal standing in education is not organic, or natural. And here I am just reiterating my original point that you're looking at this with zero context and history, and looking at any social issue that way is pretty much completely meaningless. Anyways, I'm gonna skip the waste that explaining further would lead to since I dont wanna and just post this.

 

Shifting points in that last part there, but you arent gonna get me that easily, my point was that the biggest problem with ghostbusters was it was poorly made, not the gender change. I countered that by showing a film where the change wasnt universally panned because people liked it. I dont need to start defending points I didnt make here. And like I said, people are going to stop making a big deal about racially diverse media once we are in that idealistic post-discrimination society.

You did. And then you kept asserting that discrimination based on things people can't change is okay, which is bigotry. So how am I supposed to walk away from bigotry claiming to be in the right?

 

We live in about as much of a post-discrimination society as it's going to get. Lines are never going to vanish, because that's just how some people are. But to blanket entire communities and ethnicities with general statements won't help. Assuming that every black man is ironically the short person in your visual aid is soft bigotry, and assuming every white man is the tall one is also a form of bigotry. Everyone has different places they come from. A black kid in Orange county is not worse off than a white kid in Cincinnati. You wanna talk to me about context and history, and then you imply that all black people need help while white people deserve persecution for the color of their skin? So please: continue with the bigoted comments. Maybe post a few more pictures that explain this flawed world view. But maybe one day you'll open your eyes and realize that "holy shit, blaming and persecuting the ancestors of persecutors only perpetuates persecution."

 

And yeah, you kind of walked yourself into a minefield. I already said that the shit comedy played a role in the Ghostbusters movie sucking. Then you proceeded to walk your ideology off of a cliff without realizing. So please, pick a question to answer. Doesn't have to be all of them, I'd just like to see leftist rhetoric collapse under the weight of its own bullshit.

Last edited by Azuren - on 22 May 2018