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Aeolus451 on 21 May 2018
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the-pi-guy said:

 

John2290 said:

L was a black guy playing a Japanese guy yet when a white guy plays a japanese guy it's somehow worse. You're brainwashed dude.

What?  I never said that a white guy playing a japanese guy is a problem.  I'm saying that skin color doesn't have anything to do with their portrayal.  

I have no issue with either of the actors.  I don't give a flying whatever that a white guy is playing a Japanese dude in the Netflix movie.  

What I disagree about is that a black guy playing a "Japanese" guy is a problem.  I was just bringing up Light because if you are going to have a problem with ethnicities not matching, then you should also have an issue there as well.  

This is literally the only point I was making:

Light was a white guy playing a Japanese guy yet when a black guy plays a japanese guy it's somehow worse. You're brainwashed dude.

But sure, I'm brainwashed.  

celador said:

blind hiring meant to improve women's chances of employment stopped because more men were being hired. which means, of course, women were getting special treatment:    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-30/bilnd-recruitment-trial-to-improve-gender-equality-failing-study/8664888

Women hired 2:1 in some STEM fields over men with identical qualifications:  http://news.cornell.edu/stories/2015/04/women-preferred-21-over-men-stem-faculty-positions

it is happening more and more. women have already been given every advantage in education, and now they are getting more privileges in employment in the name of their version of """equality"""

https://www.theguardian.com/women-in-leadership/2013/oct/14/blind-auditions-orchestras-gender-bias

When people do these kinds of studies, they have to do them on different populations, different industries.  You can't take one specific study and think that's what's happening everywhere.  

What I suspect is that women have an advantage in some fields and worse in others.  Take management, women now outnumber men.  

Women probably have a huge advantage when it comes to elementary school teaching.  


Something to keep in mind is that just because one group has some kind of disadvantage doesn't mean the other group doesn't also have some other disadvantages.  

For example, men can have an easier time becoming president, whereas women can have an easier time becoming elementary school teachers.  

Men can have the privilege of not being raped, and women can have the privilege of not being sent to go to war.  

DonFerrari said:

Since diversity isn't a talent it's very hard to see how some product can fail due to lack of diversity on a team.

On the contrary, diversity is a talent.  

There are numerous studies that show that bringing people from different backgrounds is helpful.  

https://www.ft.com/content/1bc22040-1302-11e7-80f4-13e067d5072c

Because people are going to come in with different perspectives.  This is especially true if you are going to work in the entertainment industry.  If you want to write about a woman, guess what?   It helps to have a woman to be able to share her perspective and experiences.  

Diversity is not talent in any sense. If anything it's more likely to be racist or sexist because you're picking people mainly on sex, race or sexuality over other people who are likely more talented or experienced. It's hypocritical of progressives.